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Remote Name:
66.199.36.87
Date:
2003-10-31
Time:
10:44 PM

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Democracy: The 1928 US Government Training Manual, No.2000-25, War Department Chief of Staff states: "A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of direct expression, results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy." Also, a democracy has no system of Constitutional natural rights to protect the individual from the absolute will of any voting majority, which is a small segment of the population, and they regulate laws which, without limiting laws, creates endless colorable rules and regulations in an effort to please everyone until the system is under complete government control. A democracy may grant civil rights, but in a Republic, you automatically have natural civil rights. http://www.eddiekahn.com/rebublic_under_seige.htm ... There are two ways an enemy can come on shore, either by invasion or by foreign contract. The following discussion reviews the invasion by foreign contract and is the basis for the Republic’s "siege."


Remote Name:
66.199.36.146
Date:
2003-11-02
Time:
02:36 PM

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...Be not decieved from the "simplicity" that is in Christ... there are alot of things that are missed or misunderstood about the culture of the jews(hebrews) of the N.T. & O.T. and the idea that the wedding's wine is the responcibility of the husband is one, a man had to marry by age 26 or be disowned is another, perhaps that is one reason why when Yashoua(Jesvs) said "it is fufilled..." in the synogog they tried to run him off a cliff????? well, don't kill the messenger? but do remember the SIMPLE idea that the old covenant(world/age) ended in 70ad withe the ETERNAL destruction of the last real temple as well as any atonement thru animal sacrafice; Interesting, but irrevelant, to your salvation whether or not he had a wife; BUT a bishop is to be a "sober man and a husband to ONE WIFE"; how the catholics get around this one is a big mystery to me? . . . http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ ....That's a woman sitting next to Jesus, occupying the traditional position of a wife. Under Judaic laws of the time, Jesus could not be a Rabbi unless he were married. But Jesus marriage and his children are the secret Christianity does not want you to know, because the early Christian church leadership was based on the concept of apostolic descent, which only works if Jesus died without heirs. In the 1200s, the Catholic church, in order to consolidate power, undertook to erase from the world the descendants of the historical Jesus, and all public record that they had ever existed. In the process, 1/2 the population of Southern France was murdered ...see: et al: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35373


Remote Name:
66.199.36.146
Date:
2003-11-02
Time:
02:54 PM

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Remote Name:
66.199.38.33
Date:
2003-11-02
Time:
08:32 PM

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and you broke a few of the 60,000 applicable statuets/ordain-ances on you today; shame shame... http://www.usa-the-republic.com/emergency%20powers/powers_1.html . . . in 1965 the Congress passed the "Coinage Act of 1965" completely debasing the Constitutional gold and silver Coin (See: 18 U.S.C.A. 331, 332; U.S. v. Marigold, 50 US 560, 13 L.Ed. 257). At the signing of the Coinage Act on July 23, 1965; Lyndon B. Johnson stated in his Press Release that : "When I have signed this bill before me, we will have made the first fundamental change in our coinage in 173 years. The Coinage Act of 1965 supersedes the Act of 1792. And that Act had the title: `An Act Establishing a Mint and Regulating the Coinage of the United States ... "Now I will sign this bill to make the first change in our coinage system since the 18th Century. To those members of Congress, who are here on this historic occasion, I want to assure you that in making this change from the 18th Century we have no idea of returning to it." It is important to take cognizance of the fact that NO Constitutional Amendment was ever obtained to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE, amend, abridge or abolish the Constitutional mandates, provisions or prohibitions, but due to internal and external diversions surrounding the Viet Nam War, etc.; the usurpation and breach went basically unchallenged and unnoticed by the general public at large, who became "a wealthy man's cannon fodder or cheap source of slave labor" (See: Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars, TM-SW7905.1, Pgs. 6-9, 12, 13, & 56). Congress was clearly delegated the Power and Authority to regulate and maintain the true and inherent "value" of the Coin within the scope and purview of Article I, Section 8, Clauses 5 & 6 and Article I, Section 10, Clause 1 of the ordained (1787) Constitution, and further, under a corresponding duty and obligation to maintain said gold and silver Coin and Foreign Coin at and within the necessary and proper "equal weights and measures" clause (See also: Holy Bible; Deuteronomy 25:13-16; Public Law 97-289; 96 Stat. 1211). Those exercising the Offices of the several States, in equal measure, knew such "De Facto Transitions" were unlawful and unauthorized, but sanctioned, implemented and enforced the complete debauch and the resulting "governmental, social, industrial economic change" in the "De Jure" States and in the United States of America (See: Public Law 94-564, Legislative History thereof, pg. 5936, 5945; 31 U.S.C.A. 314, 321, 5112; C.R.S. [Colorado Revised Statutes] 11-61-101; C.R.S. 39-22-103.5; and C.R.S. 18-11-203), and were and are now under the delusion that they can do both directly and indirectly what were absolutely prohibited from doing (See also: Federalist Papers No. 44; Craig v. Missouri, 4 Peters 903). In 1966, Congress being severally compromised, passed the "Federal Tax Lien Act of 1966", by which the entire taxing and monetary system i.e. "Essential Engine" (See: Federalist Papers No. 31) was placed under the Uniform Commercial Code (See: Public Law 89-719; and the Legislative History thereof, pg. 3722; also see: C.R.S. 5-1-106). The Uniform Commercial Code was, of course, promulgated by the "National Conference of Commissioners On Uniform State Laws" in collusion with the "American Law Institute" for the "banking and business interests" (See: "Handbook Of The National Conference Of Commissioners On Uniform State Laws" (1966 ed.) pgs. 152-153). The United States being engaged in numerous U.N. conflicts including the Korean and the Viet Nam wars of which were under the direction of the United Nations (See: 22 U.S.C.A. 287d), and agreeing to foot the bill (See: 22 U.S.C.A. 287j), and not being able to honor their obligations and hypothecated debt credit; openly and publicly dishonored and disavowed their "Notes" and "obligations" (12 U.S.C.A. 411) i.e. "Federal Reserve Notes" through Public Law 90-269, section 2; 82 Stat. 50 to wit: "Sec. 2. The first sentence of section 15 of the Federal Reserve Act (12 U.S.C. 391) is amended by striking `and the funds provided in this Act for the redemption of Federal Reserve Notes' ..." Things steadily grew worse and on March 28, 1970; President Nixon issued Proclamation No. 3972 declaring an "emergency" because the Postal Employees struck against the de facto government (?) for higher pay, due to inflation of the paper "Bills of Credit" (See: Senate Report No. 93-549, pg. 596). President Nixon placed the U.S. Postal Department under control of the "Department of Defense" (See: Department Of The Army Field Manual, FM 41-10 (1969 ed.)). . . .


Remote Name:
66.199.38.22
Date:
2003-11-02
Time:
10:44 PM

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...Development of new lethal mousepox viruses Posted Nov 1, 2003 08:35 AM PST A scientist funded by the US Government has manufactured an extremely deadly form of mousepox virus through genetic engineering, which destroys all mice injected with anti-viral drugs as well as a vaccine that would normally protect them. Note that another virus able to infect humans has ALREADY been modified in the same way... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/


Remote Name:
66.199.36.200
Date:
2003-11-03
Time:
11:47 AM

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Forget Howl-o-ween et c. What is really scary to consider is if the IraQ and Afgan "Military ConflictS) were staged to deal with the global economic expansion stagnation due in part, to peak oil production being reached; How despirate things must really be behind the scenes for the Bush/military complex to go along with this game. http://www.carfree.com/cft/i023.html (-LOOK FOR THE CHARTS HALFWAY DOWN) Just how bad must things really be for this to be sold on those in the know? A global depression beyond human experience and concept?; Population reduction designed or not? Do a search for "Peak oil production" and after some research get prepaired to survive the crash; if it occurs, since the greedy and power/control corupted probably will not allow any new techknolegy, if any, to come into use that will stop the global meltdow or sustain us at current levels of development... http://www.oilcrisis.com/ http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081503_cia_russ_summary.html et c.


Remote Name:
66.199.36.147
Date:
2003-11-04
Time:
03:02 PM

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Has anybody noticed that Morehead city cops (112) have been speed-trapping OUT OF STATE MOTORISTS on I-64 lately. EZ-MONEY!!! Who would drive all the way back from GA, SC or CA to plea "not guilty" on a tickett that is marked "PRE-PAYABLE" and an address where they can mail in a check or money order to pay the fine? Is this an abuse of the public trust? I will decline to say because of my place of residence.


Remote Name:
66.199.38.121
Date:
2003-11-04
Time:
05:39 PM

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Remote Name:
66.199.36.115
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
10:06 AM

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poor 32nd degree gatewood, Why are the court records sealed on the Charlie Puckett case? where is Steve, really he wasnt a govt. agent? and anyole piece of metal can be made to full auto a sks? Charlie might have been a hothead and opinionated but "no ex post facto law" right? not! Good luck to the otherside of the coin in Frankfort...


Remote Name:
66.199.36.115
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
10:19 AM

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When I was in Ohio a few years ago there were orange barrels every where on I75 and to merge into traffic you had to 'bout blow yer engin to get up to 75mph or more in a construction zone? Let the MPD slow down? traffic on 64, the accounting laws aint bout to change in Frankfort or DC to expose the CAFR funds and assets so, MPD can get re-venue out there rather than bother the "legal" establishments such as was done with patrons of Boomerangs et al.(not pro-dui am I.) At least they aint planting stuff on folks so as to seize things to turn in to the DEA and get a kickback check at the end of the year like the Louisville PD (et al) does, there are no quotas but it does seeem like more pullovers happen near the end of the month?


Remote Name:
66.199.36.115
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
10:53 AM

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A "speed trap" is where a hidden sign for a unusually reduced speedlimit is used (say partially covered by a treebranch in a open streech of road so as to catch unsuspecting citizens in a trap, if you are going 80mph or more past the Morehead exit dont get upset if you get a ticket, change the law, so that your automobile is not a "Vechicle"(a interstate commerce word of art) that is in the "adminstrative law"(statuets) jurisdiction of the federally occupied territories (formerly states) and under the concept in common law, no injury no crime, you can get in your flying antigrav conveyance and do 150mph without a liciense or insurance, since oil is set to be forced out of use, contrived or not, we will be back on horses, sneekers, or bicycles in 10years if nobody solves the techno problems for personal transport without fossil fuels in the mix somewhere; Get ready to be hearded into the population centers and work on "industrial estates" fancy name for prison factory; that is if you survive the diabolical population reduction skemes; and youre complaining about a speeding ticket? There are government entities calling for $60 per barrel oil to curb the expansion of consumption, but the present rate cannot be maintained, can it? how fast will you drive when gas costs 10 bucks a gallon? milk $15 and wages dont get raised? Today a global crash of economies will put the "great depression" to shame as a paradyme shift gets implemented in the prision planet tracking grid. The futures so bright I got to wear shades. You have the right to remain ignorant.


Remote Name:
66.199.36.38
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
01:06 PM

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nomen juris; a name of the law (not usually the same definition of the same word in the "common venacular" so...) res- latin for property, object or thing; ident- recognised,to establish identity, et c. ... so "resident of kentucky" is property identified with kentucky? property of who? or what, the IMF? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. . . . so, much for being a free inhabitant or freeman. Have any problem now, withe swearing under penalty of perjury on a voter registration card or hunting/fishing license et c. that you are property object or thing associated with Kentucky?


Remote Name:
66.199.38.175
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
10:44 PM

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...9/11 Main Page All of The Memory Hole's 9/11 material on one page... http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/


Remote Name:
66.199.36.222
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
10:55 PM

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The comment made about MPD speed-trapping (guess I should have said "shootin' radar) on I-64 was made to open a few eyes. Sure enough, I got flammed. The point is that the city police officers are paid to patrol the city detecting and preventing crime. Not to park on I-64 and play State Highway Patrol. Leave that job for The Kentucky State Police and The KY Vehicle Enforcement Officers (Those officers travel and patrol the interstate highways daily). Everybody is complaining about "The powers that be". Well, If you can't regulate those powers on a local level, then how on earth can you ever expect to change the course of events takeing place on the world level? If you are looking to save the USA (not NWO) and return it to the soverign (soverign meaning people); If you really want to rescue the Constitution and the Bill of rights; Then you must start at the local level and work your way up. I wasn't worried about a speeding tickett. My car rarely makes it past 60 on the interstate. As for a solution to fossil fuel, ever here of biodiesel? It's made by recycleing used cooking oil (among other things).


Remote Name:
66.199.38.175
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
10:56 PM

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AP: On 9/11, CIA Was Running Simulation of a Plane Crashing into a Building. >>> Here's another admission which destroys the government's lie that it couldn't possibly have foreseen the use of planes to ram buildings. The National Law Enforcement and Security Institute will be holding a conference called "Homeland Security: America's Leadership Challenge" in Chicago on 6 Sept 2002. The star speaker is Rudolph Giuliani. One of the other speakers is CIA man John Fulton. Here is the crucial sentence from the promotional literature for the conference: On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm gee whiz wally, Norad had no reason to stand down on the idea 9/11 was just an exercise?


Remote Name:
66.199.38.175
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
11:27 PM

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biodesil haint gonna do it; 1st: the fertilizers are derived from petro chem byproducts to make us the "bread basket to the world" and the amount of energy put into making the gallon of biodesil is more than what you get out of it, (and that's Not including the sun's energy, of course), It could prove to be a tempory stopgap measure but not a solution to the massive energy needs to sustain the level of current energy use. Now a few yrs ago the KY DOT was given the duty option (just like a mil. officer's descretion in theatre) to rite tickets(commercial paper leins) on any traffic offence, but chooses to ignore ? top heavy overloaded log trucks and sit on the bypass waiting on that semi bypassing the scales on I-64; bigger $$$tickets? but as anyone driving 519 has seen the honeycombed fractures in the blacktop also on various county roads, you know it aint just coal trucks cupping the pavement, one "offical" I talked to said "guys got to make a living" refering to log trucks that are overloaded with just a few logs let alone a stack taller that the truck is wide; and what about those pickups with tires stacked 15-20feet in the air so that they sway on every bump like theyre gonna tip over, accident waiting to happen? dont swerve to miss anything like a deer or child ? splat... What should really be researched is to find if in kentucky, like in Georgia Revised Statutes, provisions are in place to pad the retirement accounts of the officer, prosecuter, and judges in "traffic court" with a percent of the take? If you was a lawyer with all the debt from law skoo why take such a low paying job in a county court? must be some other re-venue comming in to pay for the election cost too? a local scrip would is one of the big ideas to wrest control away from the federal funny funds that every element of society is controlled by local state and national; see the Berea Bucks and Ithica Hours link above;and no I haint triin to save the country; but the locals are gonna keep following the money under the carrot and stick method, it's who has the checkbook.


Remote Name:
66.199.38.175
Date:
2003-11-05
Time:
11:59 PM

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More power to ya ifn' ya think you can work yer way up in the reform of the corupted "system" the vast majority of the GDP as the beltway crowd sometimes refers to us, just dont have the drive to do anything, heck the revolution was what 15% of the free people in the colonies; the rest did nothing and/or worked for the Crown; I have seen many different groups try to bring real re-form of the true republic only to be infiltrated and diluted or co-opted to work for the enemy, most recient example the NRA now compromising for gun registration? or the nights of malta psudo conservative Phyliss Shaffly, nice retoric but where are the real results, The WWF and Serria Club are on the corporate teet, helps pay for their big penthouse frisco swaraays(parties) so send in yer donation now. If you know something and dont say anything the blood is on your hands just as the bible say if the watchman dose not cry out...; I am just pointing this out so I can say I did not remain silent (consent by aquiesence), sometimes I point stuff out thats argumentitive even if I basically agree with someone, it is a process that leads to refining ideas, nothing personal, if you can do something locally then do. More power to ya; just dont let em' make you think you changed something to satisfy and placate you.


Remote Name:
66.199.38.140
Date:
2003-11-07
Time:
10:29 AM

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http://www.americansovereign.org/traffictickets.htm ONLY YOU CAN COMBAT LAWLESSNESS IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL CASE Whenever you receive a traffic ticket, you are being handed an opportunity to combat lawlessness in government. It is lawlessness by your public servants to charge you with violation of laws to which you are not subject in the first place. There are several grounds upon which such challenges can be raised in your individual traffic court case. Those challenges must be answered or your right to due process of law is violated. Furthermore, your right to be fully informed of the nature and cause of the charges is also most certain to be violated. In the name of efficient government, lawlessness in traffic court always rears its ugly head in several different ways. Any one of these individual issues regarding lawful authority represents grounds for dismissal of your case. By appropriate review of this subject, whole new insights regarding the limits of authority in traffic court will become evident. ((techknomen note: be prepaired for the long haul even if you get a deal or dissmissal,(they'll be mad) but be prepaired to appeal on the defects of (due)process you emphasise in your intital motions (directed at the natural persons occupping feduciary positions) 10days aint enuff time to file appeals and you do not want to "pray" to the entity lacking jurisdiction, for an extention, on principal alone, let alone practicality.))) also: worth reading? http://www.angelfire.com/tx/dpatton/BeatTicket1.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0963464116/002-3185390-6684803?v=glance&vi=customer-reviews http://www.google.com/search?q=beat+ticket+motions+&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N et al ad nausium?


Remote Name:
66.199.38.140
Date:
2003-11-07
Time:
10:35 AM

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THOT CRIME AND ANTI SEMITISM(zionsism) BITES RABBI IN THE ASP? http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/357602.html Judge proposes Rabbi Ginsburg retract inciteful statements By Yuval Yoaz, Haaretz Correspondent Jerusalem Magistrate's Court Judge Noam Solberg on Wednesday proposed that Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg explicitly and publicly retract his offensive statements about Arabs, in return for an end to all criminal proceedings against him. Ginsburg, a member of the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidic movement, and a former head of a yeshiva in the West Bank city of Nablus, was indicted in July on charges of encouraging racism against Arabs in his book, "Tsav Hasha'a - Tipul Shoresh" ("Order of the Day - Radical Treatment"), which was published in 2001. According to the proposal, Ginsburg would publicly announce a retraction of his inciteful statements and state his support for social and political equal rights to all the state's citizens, regardless of religion, race or gender. Ginsburg, through his attorney Naftali Wurzberger, said he would consider the proposal. Among others, the charges cite a conversation in the book between Ginsburg and a student. The student asks: "So an Arab has no right to exist in Israel?" Ginsburg replies: "Here in the Land of Israel, he has no right." ... http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/357602.html


Remote Name:
66.199.38.140
Date:
2003-11-07
Time:
10:48 AM

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a copywright violateing practice for google but you dont have to open a pdf viewer, interesting perspective on capitolist pig exploits of the non-free-enterprising. http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:42BDh59TXpcJ:www.pinkmonkey.com/dl/library1/digi468.pdf+beat+ticket+motions+%22American+Sovereign%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


Remote Name:
66.199.38.140
Date:
2003-11-07
Time:
10:52 AM

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Idiot legal argument? or sucessfull thwarting by the syndicate? http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:GmXwjBXkIdoJ:www.adl.org/mwd/sussman.doc+beat+ticket+motions+%22American+Sovereign%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


Remote Name:
66.199.38.140
Date:
2003-11-07
Time:
11:13 AM

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The patent makes sovereign freeholders of each Citizen who own his/her land. A return to the patent must occur if those sovereign freeholders wish to protect that land from the encroachment of the state legislatures and the speculators((read banque-sters & their whore shysters and the leach realtors sucking off the system)) that benefit from such legislation. ...As has been seen, man is always striving to protect his rights, the most dear being the absolute right to ownership of the land. This right was guaranteed by the land patent, the public policy of the Congress, and the legislative intent behind the Statutes at Large. Such rights must be reacquired through the re-declaration of the patent in the color of title claimant's name, based on his color of title and possession. With such “born-again” rights, the land is protected from the forced sale because of delinquency on a promissory note and foreclosure on the mortgage.... ((READ DEFACTO GOVERNMENT'S IMPENDING DEFAULT ON UNKNOWN NUMBER OF U.S.SECURITIES IN PERPETUAL BANKRUPSY AND HANDOVER TO WORLD BANQUE THRU IMF AND UN OCCUPATION UNDER THE GUISE OF BIOSPHERE PROTECTION... )) This protected land will not eliminate the debt, a trust must be created whereby "partners" will work together to repay it. These rights must be recaptured from the state legislated laws, or the freedoms guaranteed in the Bill of Rights and Constitution will be lost. Once lost, those rights will be exceedingly hard to reclaim, and quite possibly, as Thomas Jefferson said, the children of this generation may someday wake up homeless on the land their forefathers founded. http://www.americansovereign.org/landpatents.htm


Remote Name:
66.199.36.128
Date:
2003-11-08
Time:
11:17 AM

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MYSTERY WEAPON ZAPS TANKS ------------------------------------------------- November 5, 2003 -- The Army is investigating whether pro-Saddam insurgents have a new mystery weapon that can disable the powerhouse M1AI Abrams tank - while leaving only a pencil-size hole in the hull. The Army Times reported yesterday that commanders in Iraq have grown alarmed about the prospect that exotic new weaponry may be in the hands of the death squads after one of the 69-ton workhorse tanks was disabled while on patrol in Baghdad Aug. 28. "The bad guys are using something unknown, and the guys facing it want very much to know what it is and how they can defend themselves," the Army Times quoted a report by Terry Hughes, a representative from the Rock Island Arsenal who examined the damaged tank. ---------Niles Latham----------- Iraqistan is still being used as a test bed for weapons systems???????????????? http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35422 Zionist? Farrah perspective: FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN Do Iraqi terrorists have secret weapon? Mystery munition destroys U.S. tank in incident troubling Army officials...


Remote Name:
66.199.36.128
Date:
2003-11-08
Time:
11:38 AM

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MYSTERY WEAPON ZAPS TANKS http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/10007.htm Welcome to the world of star trek type? directed energy weapons, you can still have my (ray)gun when you can pry it from my cold dead hand... (and no I dont expect a space alien to take me up on that offer as propagandised in that "men in black" flick. However do we want a guberment/beast system with solar powered hovering drone blimps at 70,000 feet with this stuff able to be directed at your car or cell phone with the gps in it, because you're a dissitant or not a approved candidate for office by the syndicate? oh it was one of those darn hackers or he was a terrorist right wing militia type, the bubble head bleach blonde on CNN said so, so I feel safer that they have the phaser gun floating overhead...


Remote Name:
66.199.36.128
Date:
2003-11-08
Time:
12:59 PM

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This is just a theory?... now there are plenty of "out there" people and talk-shows where provable legitimate stories are mixed-in with the space-alien-lizard-flying-sauser-people-running-the- world unprovable-doubtful hard to belives stuff is spewed out(like the psyop? artist "art bell") ... Ya know how in the fall of the year as everything has been harvested the plants and the world all look tired and finished with growing, ready to sleep the winter or die. This Age/world/era appears to be in that stage, as history repeats itself? Now stay withe me here, adam-ic man has been running around for how long? if we equate the growing season to now(or the last ~2000years) as the "harvest"; Febuary/march is about say 6-10,000 years ago and just like when a woman is pregnant the most weight gain is in the last 6weeks, the bulk of the various harvest comes in about what september- into - november? and is stored or preserved and/or consumed, OR some is saved for the next season...well...supposedly there are hints that man has been technological in the past, the worn out example is the mystery of the pyrmid's constuction or whether or not atlantis was real, less known is the hugh stones in South America of Machu Pichu? in peru a gateway made of stones much larger and apparently brough a farther distance than any at giza, anyway...but where in the bible does it really say the earth will pass away? Where's the end of the literal physical rock and dirt of the world is spoken of are you sure it is not in the sense of AGE, yea, I have read the elements will melt with fervent heat et c. ... we use expressions like in the "world of work..." or "in my grandpa's day" ec t. (Yoshoua)(jesvs) was quite defiant of the authorities of that world we refer to as the third world. What is to say that the "harvest" has not been going on since 70ad and the end of the growing season, as he was the first reserected in the new covenant and the temple destruction ended the old. In mid-summer the light cycles switch plant hormones on that turnon seed production as the days start to get shorter, "time grows short", and it always kinda sneeks up on me (compounded by the timechange for e.s.t.) but the amount that the day shortens (or lengthens in the spring) seems to acellerate to a peak of where you lose about 6 minites a day of daylight around the fall equinox, and slows down as you get around winter solstice before the whole cycle starts again. Heaven and earth shall pass away before one jot or title of the law passes away does not say directly that the earth or heaven is gonna pass away does it? Definately the Law is not gonna change and the law is for man's benifit, are you prepared for winter and next season if this world/age is about over but the earth goes on? why does the bible say adam and eve were told to "re-plenish the earth". just a few considerations?


Remote Name:
66.199.38.36
Date:
2003-11-08
Time:
06:33 PM

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the sun has seasons or appears to, long period cycles of progression in the earths orbit extrapolation hints that something like 30000 yrs ago and thousands from now the axis of earth was pointed at a different north star, that is if, something did not hit the earth to cause Noah's flood say in the Hudson bay of north candada, a large Iron meteroid just happens to be magnetic north, hmmmm, undesturbed anyway now the tilt of the seasons progresses over time to produce more extremes than we no experience in the northern hemisphere, where in summer, we are tilted toward the sun but at the farthest point in the orbit, in winter, tilted away from the sun but we are closer so winter is milder than it could be or will be when the orbit progresses to the opposit of now, an Ice age? every 6-8000 years? these factors are largely ignored by those pushing global warming and the media that propagandises for such as the serria club etc.



Remote Name:
66.199.38.78
Date:
2003-12-01
Time:
10:19 PM

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Joe Bannister where are you???? http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1414 In a precendent-setting case, the IRS wielded new power to punish the political speech of those who "espouse views" the government considers "inconsistent" with government-held beliefs. In a hearing originally closed to the public in a secret tribunal on a military island, but moved to a public location after protests from the press and the public, the IRS wants to wield this power against a former IRS whistleblower, who was forced to resign upon his discovery of fraud in the agency. . . .The IRS claims it can exercise this authority in a secret proceeding without allowing a person the opportunity to cure any alleged mistakes, the opportunity to prepare a defense by knowing the exact facts they are accused of, without any opportunity for discovery, without any opportunity to call witnesses necessary for their defense, without any opportunity to cross examine their accusers, without any opportunity to testify at their own hearing about the merits of their position, without being forced to testify against themselves without such an assertion being held against them, and without even an opportunity for a hearing on the evidence. This power of this little office with a Napoleonic vision goes even beyond the Patriot Act type authority and stories of FBI monitoring of war protestors. Too Hoover-ish to be true in modern America? Just read the case of the IRS against Joe Banister scheduled for a "hearing" -- a hearing where the IRs prohibited Banister from introducing any witnesses or presenting any evidence as to his defenses, and even discussing the sincerity, the truth or the "reasonableness" of his positions -- on December 1 in the city by the bay, in the Tax Court chambers of the federal courthouse in San Francisco. History is being made. For more information contact: Law Offices of Robert G. Bernhoft S. C 207 East Buffalo Street Suite 600 Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53202 ph. 414-276-3333 fx. 414-276-2822 rgbernhoft@bernhoftlaw.com rebarnes@bernhoftlaw.com . . . Looks like the stuff the "founding terrorists" fought against, oh well, thanks to the floride and phytoestrogens, plastisizers, fertilizers, and aluminum, and 20-200channels of TV, the gennerally numb public probably will just "sign up an' draw", if "THEY" make it too much trouble to werk, and drive.


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"ok you errors..." you need to reread everything on this page and the links and think again how there exists a page named "www.moreheadnews.com" withe such a charactor as "Bill Green" running it, uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh me thinks you doth protest to much? hmmmmmmm errrors or diliberate spoof??????????could it be???????? I haint Bill Green but get a clue? . . .


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really anybody that takes this page seriously must take life too seriously, looks like this is for posting stuff, dont know about this Bill Green but get a life ifn youz hiped bout spellin tipe, 26 letters in the alfabet for 46+ sounds in the American langedge makes reasonable peipull question the "rules" of spellin' any who...


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2003-12-03
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Ellen Mariani, the 9/11 Widow Who Has filed a Bush Treason Lawsuit and Her Attorney, Philip J. Berg, Esquire . . . http://infowars.com/print/Sept11/widow_pressrelease.htm She effectively lists the multitude of news reports of intelligence warnings the U.S. received prior to 9/11. And she succinctly details how lower-level FBI agents' investigations into suspicious characters who turned out to be part of the plot were thwarted. The real power of her action may be the timing. The 9/11 commission is flailing, with a meager $11 million budget, limited access and little media attention. Recently the White House reached an agreement with the commission headed by Tom Kean, the Republican former governor of New Jersey, that would allow it to censor any presidential briefing it turned over to the panel. http://www.guerrillanews.com/intelligence/doc3510.html ((another kook?? Bush at UN "should not tollerate outrageous conspiracy therories about 9/11" ))


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2003-12-04
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Could this be by design to undermine the health of our youngsters? Those invested heavily in the pharmo-agra industrial complex should do well; lots of pills fer sick sugar and junk food addicts; acidic bodies are yeast and cancer prone too; EAT RAW FOODS, less processed, less "ingrediants" including soy junk. . . . . . State Rep. Tom Burch, D-Louisville, has tried unsuccessfully to pass legislation that would ban high-fat snack foods, candy and soft drinks sold from vending machines during the school day, and require students to take more physical education classes. Burch said Wednesday he would refile his bill in the coming session. "The kids right now are developing diseases at 8 and 9 years old that usually a person 50 years old is beginning to develop," said Burch, chairman of the House Committee on Health and Welfare. "It's all due to the food they eat, and the fact they are getting no exercise at all. ... We're killing our kids." Officials expressed significant concern that 4 percent of students were diagnosed with diabetes, and another 13 percent had been told by health-care providers that they are at risk for developing the disease. Kentucky Education Commissioner Gene Wilhoit said in a statement that the state would use the survey to help "tailor programs and strategies that best meet the needs of students." Dr. Rice Leach, the state's public health commissioner, said in a statement that the obesity rates, limited physical activity, poor nutritional habits and diagnosed health problems among youth suggest "a very unhealthy future for these high school students." Information from: The Courier-Journal http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/breaking_news/7409332.htm


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2003-12-04
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TUM PAGAL HO


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2003-12-05
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vell "Du bist verrückt." But I say unto you... whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire, MAT 5:22. http://www.gospelchapel.com/Devotions/10_97/devotion_10-13-97.html


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2003-12-05
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uh . . . vhat he said. Genius borders on insanity, what's ur excuse; Ignorance is bliss? or Misery loves company; Perhaps "the truth shall make you free"?


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2003-12-05
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Military Industrial Complex Coup in '04 http://infowars.com/print/ps/military_coup.htm In 1992, a then little-known deputy staff judge advocate lieutenant-colonel by the name of Charles J Dunlap Jr published an article titled "The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012" (1) in the US Army War College's military journal Parameters. In a plot that was a cross between Arthur Koestler's Darkness at Noon and the movie The Siege , he depicted an America in which a military coup had taken place in the year 2012, and General Thomas E T Brutus, commander-in-chief of the Unified Armed Forces of the United States, occupies the White House as permanent military plenipotentiary. A senior retired officer of the military is one of those arrested, having been convicted by court-martial for opposing the coup. Prior to his execution, he discusses the origins of the coup, arguing that it was the outgrowth of trends visible as far back as 1992. These trends were the massive diversion of military forces to civilian use, the monolithic unification of the armed forces, and the insularity of the military community. While Dunlap, now a brigadier-general at the Air Combat Command, has not weighed in on this recently, the last two trends have been evident for many years. The Goldwater-Nichols reforms passed by Congress in the 1980s greatly strengthened jointness among the traditionally separate armed forces and the increasingly conservative and republican nature of the armed forces, which is well documented by journalists and academics. But a report in the November 23 Los Angeles Times by respected military affairs analyst William Arkin provides the latest evidence that the supposedly inviolate wall keeping the military out of traditional civilian activities is eroding, due the diversion of the military to civilian missions. That wall is embodied in the US by the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, enacted to preclude federal troops from doing the bidding of local politicians in the occupied South following the Civil War. It prohibits the military from conducting domestic law enforcement operations. Congress wanted to make it crystal clear, as Richard Nixon might have said, that there is a great difference in a democracy between protecting our nation from foreign attack and policing our neighborhoods. But the law also allows Congress and the president to make exceptions, and over the years they have done so. They did so notably in the 1980s in the Ronald Reagan era when the US military was dragged kicking and screaming into counter-drug operations. Ironically, then defense secretary Caspar Weinberger wrote in 1985, "Reliance on military forces to accomplish civilian tasks is detrimental to both military readiness and the democratic process." . . .


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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1400446,00.asp Researchers Find Serious Vulnerability in Linux Kernel Posted Dec 5, 2003 01:21 PM PST A long, long time ago, in a galaxy not quite so far away, there was a debate about hackers and virus/worm writers and more than a few people tried to claim that the problem wasn't the virus and worm writers but the Windows operating system, and that peace and harmony would reign through the aforesaid galaxy if but people would abandon Windows for LINUX. I took the position that worm and virus writers targeted Windows only because it was the most prevalent OS and that as people started changing over to LINUX (myself among them) that the worm and virus writers would simply follow along. ((The whole thing was built on ARPAnet, you know the D-efence A_dvanced R_esearch P_roject A_gencey Big surprise that there are security holes everywhere riek er right?)) I rest my case.


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2003-12-07
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Alein abduction on skaggs road in Rowan County? What a great cover for sending someone away into the underground pagan sex slave trade? . . . How bout the guberment funding investigations into that instead of the literally "astronomical" improbability of Aleins being interested in earth, instead of Aleins perhaps they are from the future or the past? or a prank on the rescue squad; cover story for a murder, no corpus delecti, no trial right? http://sfiu.tripod.com/bluelight/id12.html PROJECT BLUE LIGHT: INTERNATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING A possible answer to "Where have all the children gone?"


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Just in case you didnt here the rescue squad got called out bout a week or so ago to search for a abductee taken from Skaggs Road they responded and concluded if the witness reports were true; what could they do, since the rescue squad hasnt recieved their flying sauser zapper yet from Homeland Security? Then about a week later (12/5) a couple of "investigators" show up from "Cincinatti" to copy the reports? What else could be going on here? Really now . . .


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2003-12-07
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Judge being investigated for alleged misconduct Associated Press HAZARD, Ky. - The state is investigating an eastern Kentucky Circuit Court judge who hired at least 30 people, including his wife, as temporary employees during the past six years, at a cost of more than $90,000 in state funds. Perry Circuit Judge Douglas C. Combs Jr. hired the temporary employees as substitute court reporters for periods ranging from one day to more than two years at a daily rate of $75. But Combs already was carrying two full-time employees who performed court-reporting duties during nearly all of the six-year period, according to an investigation by The Courier-Journal of Louisville, published in Sunday's editions. http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/breaking_news/7436895.htm (I thot it was a perk when your an official to hire your reletives, regardless of experienced folks applying to the job?


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2003-12-08
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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html SHOCK VIDEO: WHO SHOT NEW 9/11 TAPES? Did Al Qaeda shoot recently released footage of 9/11 WTC attack – or was it someone else? video of 911 in government hands never broadcast shows up on terrorist webpage, big question is how it got from FBI to the "Al Qaeda" webmaster??? also barbwire surrounds some Iraqi villiages, why build a prison camp and move the detaineess just surround em with concertina wire...


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2003-12-08
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08:05 PM

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GREAT IDEA! However, you did need to use spell check. Grammar and syntax are one important in both oral and written communication but spelling is vital to a newspaper or electronic newspaper. I would suggest that if you want legitimate writers, contributors, and most importantly paid advertisements then you need to make sure you are as professional as possible. Unless this is the format you want to write in and project to us Mountain Williams of the world, then write on McDuff! Keep at it. You got my support! J. R. Wilding Morehead


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2003-12-08
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EXCERPT FROM MIKE MOORE's BOOK: Subject: Michael Moore: Answers please, Mr Bush Answers please, Mr Bush Michael Moore fired his opening salvo against George Bush and his rightwing cronies with his bestseller Stupid White Men. Now the president is in his sights again. In this second extract from his new book he asks his old enemy seven awkward questions Michael Moore Monday October 6, 2003 The Guardian I have seven questions for you, Mr Bush. I ask them on behalf of the 3,000 who died that September day, and I ask them on behalf of the American people. We seek no revenge against you. We want only to know what happened, and what can be done to bring the murderers to justice, so we can prevent any future attacks on our citizens. 1. Is it true that the Bin Ladens have had business relations with you and your family off and on for the past 25 years? Most Americans might be surprised to learn that you and your father have known the Bin Ladens for a long time. What, exactly, is the extent of this relationship, Mr Bush? Are you close personal friends, or simply on-again, off-again business associates? Salem bin Laden - Osama's brother - first started coming to Texas in 1973 and later bought some land, built himself a house, and created Bin Laden Aviation at the San Antonio airfield. The Bin Ladens are one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia. Their huge construction firm virtually built the country, from the roads and power plants to the skyscrapers and government buildings. They built some of the airstrips America used in your dad's Gulf war. Billionaires many times over, they soon began investing in other ventures around the world, including the US. They have extensive business dealings with Citigroup, General Electric, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, and the Fremont Group. According to the New Yorker, the bin Laden family also owns a part of Microsoft and the airline and defence giant Boeing. They have donated $2m to your alma mater, Harvard University, and tens of thousands to the Middle East Policy Council, a think-tank headed by a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Charles Freeman. In addition to the property they own in Texas, they also have real estate in Florida and Massachusetts. In short, they have their hands deep in our pants. Unfortunately, as you know, Mr Bush, Salem bin Laden died in a plane crash in Texas in 1988. Salem's brothers - there are around 50 of them, including Osama - continued to run the family companies and investments. After leaving office, your father became a highly paid consultant for a company known as the Carlyle Group - one of the nation's largest defence contractors. One of the investors in the Carlyle Group - to the tune of at least $2m - was none other than the Bin Laden family. Until 1994, you headed a company called CaterAir, which was owned by the Carlyle Group. After September 11, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal both ran stories pointing out this connection. Your first response, Mr Bush, was to ignore it. Then your army of pundits went into spin control. They said, we can't paint these Bin Ladens with the same brush we use for Osama. They have disowned Osama! They have nothing to do with him! These are the good Bin Ladens. And then the video footage came out. It showed a number of these "good" Bin Ladens - including Osama's mother, a sister and two brothers - with Osama at his son's wedding just six and a half months before September 11. It was no secret to the CIA that Osama bin Laden had access to his family fortune (his share is estimated to be at least $30m), and the Bin Ladens, as well as other Saudis, kept Osama and his group, al-Qaida, well funded. You've gotten a free ride from the media, though they know everything I have just written to be the truth. They seem unwilling or afraid to ask you a simple question, Mr Bush: WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? In case you don't understand just how bizarre the media's silence is regarding the Bush-Bin Laden connections, let me draw an analogy to how the press or Congress might have handled something like this if the same shoe had been on the Clinton foot. If, after the terrorist attack on the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, it had been revealed that President Bill Clinton and his family had financial dealings with Timothy McVeigh's family, what do you think your Republican party and the media would have done with that one? Do you think at least a couple of questions might have been asked, such as, "What is that all about?" Be honest, you know the answer. They would have asked more than a couple of questions. They would have skinned Clinton alive and thrown what was left of his carcass in Guantanamo Bay. 2. What is the 'special relationship' between the Bushes and the Saudi royal family? Mr Bush, the Bin Ladens are not the only Saudis with whom you and your family have a close personal relationship. The entire royal family seems to be indebted to you - or is it the other way round? The number one supplier of oil to the US is the nation of Saudi Arabia, possessor of the largest known reserves of oil in the world. When Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, it was really the Saudis next door who felt threatened, and it was your father, George Bush I, who came to their rescue. The Saudis have never forgotten this. Haifa, wife of Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to the US, says that your mother and father "are like my mother and father. I know if ever I needed anything I could go to them". A major chunk of the American economy is built on Saudi money. They have a trillion dollars invested in our stock market and another trillion dollars in our banks. If they chose suddenly to remove that money, our corporations and financial institutions would be sent into a tailspin, causing an economic crisis the likes of which has never been seen. Couple that with the fact that the 1.5m barrels of oil we need daily from the Saudis could also vanish on a mere royal whim, and we begin to see how not only you, but all of us, are dependent on the House of Saud. George, is this good for our national security, our homeland security? Who is it good for? You? Pops? After meeting with the Saudi crown prince in April 2002, you happily told us that the two of you had "established a strong personal bond" and that you "spent a lot of time alone". Were you trying to reassure us? Or just flaunt your friendship with a group of rulers who rival the Taliban in their suppression of human rights? Why the double standard? 3. Who attacked the US on September 11 - a guy on dialysis from a cave in Afghanistan, or your friend, Saudi Arabia? I'm sorry, Mr Bush, but something doesn't make sense. You got us all repeating by rote that it was Osama bin Laden who was responsible for the attack on the United States on September 11. Even I was doing it. But then I started hearing strange stories about Osama's kidneys. Suddenly, I don't know who or what to trust. How could a guy sitting in a cave in Afghanistan, hooked up to dialysis, have directed and overseen the actions of 19 terrorists for two years in the US then plotted so perfectly the hijacking of four planes and then guaranteed that three of them would end up precisely on their targets? How did he organise, communicate, control and supervise this kind of massive attack? With two cans and a string? The headlines blared it the first day and they blare it the same way now two years later: "Terrorists Attack United States." Terrorists. I have wondered about this word for some time, so, George, let me ask you a question: if 15 of the 19 hijackers had been North Korean, rather than Saudi, and they had killed 3,000 people, do you think the headline the next day might have read, "NORTH KOREA ATTACKS UNITED STATES"? Of course it would. Or if it had been 15 Iranians or 15 Libyans or 15 Cubans, I think the conventional wisdom would have been, "IRAN [or LIBYA or CUBA] ATTACKS AMERICA!" Yet, when it comes to September 11, have you ever seen the headline, have you ever heard a newscaster, has one of your appointees ever uttered these words: "Saudi Arabia attacked the United States"? Of course you haven't. And so the question must - must - be asked: why not? Why, when Congress released its own investigation into September 11, did you, Mr Bush, censor out 28 pages that deal with the Saudis' role in the attack? I would like to throw out a possibility here: what if September 11 was not a "terrorist" attack but, rather, a military attack against the United States? George, apparently you were a pilot once - how hard is it to hit a five-storey building at more than 500 miles an hour? The Pentagon is only five stories high. At 500 miles an hour, had the pilots been off by just a hair, they'd have been in the river. You do not get this skilled at learning how to fly jumbo jets by being taught on a video game machine at some dipshit flight training school in Arizona. You learn to do this in the air force. Someone's air force. The Saudi air force? What if these weren't wacko terrorists, but military pilots who signed on to a suicide mission? What if they were doing this at the behest of either the Saudi government or certain disgruntled members of the Saudi royal family? The House of Saud, according to Robert Baer's book Sleeping With the Devil, is full of them. So, did certain factions within the Saudi royal family execute the attack on September 11? Were these pilots trained by the Saudis? Why are you so busy protecting the Saudis when you should be protecting us? 4. Why did you allow a private Saudi jet to fly around the US in the days after September 11 and pick up members of the Bin Laden family and fly them out of the country without a proper investigation by the FBI? Private jets, under the supervision of the Saudi government - and with your approval - were allowed to fly around the skies of America, when travelling by air was forbidden, and pick up 24 members of the Bin Laden family and take them first to a "secret assembly point in Texas". They then flew to Washington DC, and then on to Boston. Finally, on September 18, they were all flown to Paris, out of the reach of any US officials. They never went through any serious interrogation. This is mind-boggling. Might it have been possible that at least one of the 24 Bin Ladens would have possibly known something? While thousands were stranded and could not fly, if you could prove you were a close relative of the biggest mass murderer in US history, you got a free trip to gay Paree! Why, Mr Bush, was this allowed to happen? 5. Why are you protecting the Second Amendment rights of potential terrorists? Mr Bush, in the days after September 11, the FBI began running a check to see if any of the 186 "suspects" the feds had rounded up in the first five days after the attack had purchased any guns in the months leading up to September 11 (two of them had). When your attorney general, John Ashcroft, heard about this, he immediately shut down the search. He told the FBI that the background check files could not be used for such a search and these files were only to be used at the time of a purchase of a gun. Mr Bush, you can't be serious! Is your administration really so gun nutty and so deep in the pocket of the National Rifle Association? I truly love how you have rounded up hundreds of people, grabbing them off the streets without notice, throwing them in prison cells, unable to contact lawyers or family, and then, for the most part, shipped them out of the country on mere immigration charges. You can waive their Fourth Amendment protection from unlawful search and seizure, their Sixth Amendment rights to an open trial by a jury of their peers and the right to counsel, and their First Amendment rights to speak, assemble, dissent and practise their religion. You believe you have the right to just trash all these rights, but when it comes to the Second Amendment right to own an AK-47 - oh no! That right they can have - and you will defend their right to have it. Who, Mr Bush, is really aiding the terrorists here? 6. Were you aware that, while you were governor of Texas, the Taliban travelled to Texas to meet with your oil and gas company friends? According to the BBC, the Taliban came to Texas while you were governor to meet with Unocal, the huge oil and energy giant, to discuss Unocal's desire to build a natural-gas pipeline running from Turkmenistan through Taliban-controlled Afghanistan and into Pakistan. Mr Bush, what was this all about? "Houston, we have a problem," apparently never crossed your mind, even though the Taliban were perhaps the most repressive fundamentalist regime on the planet. What role exactly did you play in the Unocal meetings with the Taliban? According to various reports, representatives of your administration met with the Taliban or conveyed messages to them during the summer of 2001. What were those messages, Mr Bush? Were you discussing their offer to hand over Bin Laden? Were you threatening them with use of force? Were you talking to them about a pipeline? 7. What exactly was that look on your face in the Florida classroom on the morning of September 11 when your chief of staff told you, 'America is under attack'? On the morning of September 11, you took a jog on a golf course and then headed to Booker elementary school in Florida to read to little children. You arrived at the school after the first plane had hit the north tower in New York City. You entered the classroom around 9am and the second plane hit the south tower at 9.03am. Just a few minutes later, as you were sitting in front of the class of kids, your chief of staff, Andrew Card, entered the room and whispered in your ear. Card was apparently telling you about the second plane and about us being "under attack". And it was at that very moment that your face went into a distant glaze, not quite a blank look, but one that seemed partially paralysed. No emotion was shown. And then ... you just sat there. You sat there for another seven minutes or so doing nothing. George, what were you thinking? What did that look on your face mean? Were you thinking you should have taken reports the CIA had given you the month before more seriously? You had been told al-Qaida was planning attacks in the United States and that planes would possibly be used. Or were you just scared shitless? Or maybe you were just thinking, "I did not want this job in the first place! This was supposed to be Jeb's job; he was the chosen one! Why me? Why me, daddy?" Or ... maybe, just maybe, you were sitting there in that classroom chair thinking about your Saudi friends - both the royals and the Bin Ladens. People you knew all too well that might have been up to no good. Would questions be asked? Would suspicions arise? Would the Democrats have the guts to dig into your family's past with these people (no, don't worry, never a chance of that!)? Would the truth ever come out? And while I'm at it ... Danger - multi-millionaires at large I've always thought it was interesting that the mass murder of September 11 was allegedly committed by a multi-millionaire. We always say it was committed by a "terrorist" or by an "Islamic fundamentalist" or an "Arab", but we never define Osama by his rightful title: multi-millionaire. Why have we never read a headline saying, "3,000 Killed by multi-millionaire"? It would be a correct headline, would it not? Osama bin Laden has assets totalling at least $30m; he is a multi-millionaire. So why isn't that the way we see this person, as a rich fuck who kills people? Why didn't that become the reason for profiling potential terrorists? Instead of rounding up suspicious Arabs, why don't we say, "Oh my God, a multi-millionaire killed 3,000 people! Round up the multi-millionaires! Throw them all in jail! No charges! No trials! Deport the millionaires!!" Keeping America safe The US Patriot Act and the enemy combatant designation are just a hint of what Bush has in store for us. Consider a brainchild of Admiral John Poindexter, an Iran-contra perp, and the Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa): the "policy analysis market", which the government was to put up on a website. Apparently, Poindexter reasoned that commodity futures markets worked so well for Bush's buddies at Enron that he could adapt it to predicting terrorism. Individuals would be able to invest in hypothetical futures contracts involving the likelihood of such events as "an assassination of Yasser Arafat" or "the overthrow of Jordan's King Abdullah II". Other futures would be available based on the economic health, civil stability and military involvement in Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Turkey. All oil-related countries. The proposed market lasted about one day after it was revealed to the Senate. Senators Wyden and Dorgan protested the Pentagon's $8m request, and Wyden said, "Make-believe markets trading in possibilities that turn the stomach hardly seem like a sensible next step to take with taxpayers money in the war on terror." As a result of the uproar over this, Poindexter was asked to step down. Giving Saddam the key to Detroit In Las Vegas, an armoured fighting vehicle was used to crush French yogurt, French bread, bottles of French wine, Perrier, Grey Goose vodka, photos of Chirac, a guide to Paris and, best of all, photocopies of the French flag. France was the perfect country to pick on. If you're a cable news company, why spend priceless reporting time on investigating whether Iraq really does have weapons of mass destruction when you can do a story about how rotten the French are? Fox News led the charge of pinning Chirac to Saddam Hussein, showing old footage of the two men together. It didn't matter that the meeting had taken place in the 1970s. The media didn't bother to run (over and over again) the footage from when Saddam was presented with a key to the city of Detroit, or the film from the early 1980s of Donald Rumsfeld visiting Saddam in Baghdad to discuss the progress of the Iran-Iraq war. The footage of Rumsfeld embracing Saddam apparently wasn't worth running on a continuous loop. Or even once. OK, maybe once. On Oprah. Michael Moore 2003. Guardian Unlimited Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003 jrwilding


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Go to google.com and in the search box type miserable failure with no quotation marks around it. Then instead of clicking "Search" click on "I feel lucky". This is funny!


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2003-12-08
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Let's really talk about the new interchange and road. The city wants a new road to relieve congestion. If the city would have spent their money on doing what was originally proposed then we would have a main street that was straight and going one way. Second and first streets would be one way and the flow would work. Instead we just made more obstacles to obstruct the flow of traffic through Morehead. Then we let some company tear up another part of the street and ruin business that are trying to survive walmart and other unscruplus economic growth ventures. Economic growth. Do you local leaders honestly think we believe that load of manure that you all are capable of doing anything worthwhile economically. What have you done. We virtually have an empty industrical park, a "Some-day soon" airport, a few pitful low paying factory jobs, and the University and Hospital. The only two real employers in the county of any substance. The creation of a new exit will only suffice individual in town the opportunity get to walmart faster! We want to make sure that we can get to our commerical materialistic pursuit quicker. Place the stops lights correctly. FIx the roads we have, we don't need more. Do some real tourism at the lake, but remember my taxes pay for this and as politicans, remember you work for ME and several thousand other employers. You forget that sometime in your egocentric rants and plunders. Do something real, do something that will benefit our childern not fix it so that we take away more business from downtown. There are several around the area that know why the new LUMBER store is coming. Hang in there local hardware folks, do sell out so they can put in a new SUPER Wal---t. GOod for you. Stand your ground, support your employees and fight the good fight. If our leaders really work for us like they are suppose to, put it to a vote. Let's vote on teh new road. Plan an election around next August and lets' settle this once and for all. We do not need another road, we need to fix what we have. SMART Progress proved that a year ago, sounds to me like we have some whiners in city and county hall. Maybe there is more going on. Remember we took land from the Native Americans and gave them TV's to watch documentaries about Indians. Don't let our National Forrest become suborniate to the materialistic whims of our town and county leaders. We own the Forrest, we should protect what littel we hav left of it. Also, put to a vote any increase in pay for politicans, our servants should not be able to give or try to give themselves a pay raise ( KY Leg, tried to give itself a 68% raise in their retirement). What about stateworks who only got 2% last year. Maybe they should give themselves a raise. VOTE On it. They want schools to be performacne based, make the politicans the same way. REPEAL THEM if they don't. Just had to get that in. TIme to chant an get to action. NO ROAD! NO ROAD!


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-08
Time:
08:32 PM

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Is there a way you can put the most recent articles first?


Remote Name:
209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-08
Time:
10:40 PM

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We need to start a scrip NOW!!!! Get it going incase of not after a collapse, and since the bigbanquesters have made it clear their moves to eliminate cash, a scrip will happen with or without guberment involvement !. . . http://www.kitco.com/ind/Field/dec032003.html : “We have reached the End of the Beginning and are about to enter the Beginning of the End”. What has taken place during the past 17 months has been no more than Part I of the US$ implosion. We are set to start Part II. During the past 17 months the US Dollar has declined moderately against most European currencies, and by even more against the currencies of commodity producers such as South Africa, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Elementary economics teaches that when a country’s currency depreciates, that country’s trade deficit will gradually diminish. Yet, despite a two year slide in the Dollar, there has so far been no decline in the US trade deficit. Why the exception? The answer lies in the countervailing actions adopted by some of America’s Asian trading partners. Those with the largest surpluses, mainly Japan and China, have been intervening in the markets to slow the appreciation of their currencies against the Dollar in an effort to protect their export industries. China, which today enjoys the largest surplus of all America’s trading partners, linked its currency directly to the US Dollar. Despite rising opposition from the US Government, China’s currency strategy continues unabated. Before condemning the Chinese, it is important to understand what is happening in their country ((if there was 5 things I wish were wrong this would be one of them, somebody please get the local click to start a bioregional scrip like CRAECK "Cave Run Area Exchange Coupons of Kentucky" We need merchants and service buisnesses and individual private enterprises that accept these and back the scrip with a upfront fee and a advertiser to put the word out and a "Clearinghouse" such as a bank, the fed will look the other way just like the Ithica hours. http://www.kitco.com/ind/Field/dec032003.html


Remote Name:
209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-08
Time:
11:06 PM

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'We can implant entirely false memories' http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1098943,00.html and by reporting this suggestable people can be more easily vitimised by the placibo belief that this is just the declassified version of what has been going on since before the Sinatra classic "The Manchurian Canditdate"


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209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-08
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11:54 PM

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to: 24.51.179.94 "Great Idea! . . ." Are you implicating that the writers and stories and ideas are not legitimate because of spelling? Did you not know there were five competing dictionaries of the "American Language" in the 1820's and before? Do you really think this is a commercial venture? I do not own this webpage and have some reasonable suspicion that it is a spoof for whatever reason, and unless some real necessity occurs to sell it this is what it is going to look like? I have known of it for almost 6months and since I started reading and posting stuff the hits have went from 7-800 to 3800+. I'd say there are only between 5-10 contributers and several hundred "readers" that hit more than once, I have looked thru the "celler" page and some stuff is missing that was here before mostly juvenile junk but anything of substance seems to be left up? so post all you want but this looks like the way it's gonna be? Seems to be a fairly open forum, take advantage while it lasts!?!?


Remote Name:
209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-08
Time:
11:56 PM

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Remote Name:
209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-09
Time:
12:18 AM

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http://eddiekahn.com/REF/notification_of_birth.htm (click link). You will notice that it(the document) was sent to the U. S. Department of Commerce by the State, notifying them of this person's birth. The question is: why would the State take the time and trouble to notify the U. S. Department of Commerce of this person's birth? We have been told that the United States went into bankruptcy in 1933 and we are listed as assets ((artifical person stawman trustees? holders in due course, but never owners except under color of title not actual alodial title)). . . of the bankrupt entity. In other words, your productivity is the asset((or rather the potential taxing power on your productivity is the asset)). You can draw your own conclusions. However, I might suggest that you submit a Privacy Act request to the Department of Commerce asking for the Notification of Birth Registration with your name on it. . . . ( click links )


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209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-09
Time:
12:27 AM

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Secrets And Spies Posted Dec 8, 2003 02:39 PM PST Calling all spooks and spies. If you want to help Congress get to the bottom of the scandal over Iraq intelligence, now’s your chance. Later this week, a key member of Congress will issue an all-points call for intelligence analysts to blow the whistle on President Bush, Vice President Cheney and others in the Bush administration who may have distorted, exaggerated, manipulated or lied about intelligence on Iraq in the run up to war. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/


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209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-09
Time:
01:10 AM

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The Bears, Panthers, wolves et c. are comming back into Kentucky!!! Comes down to this don't it; If I have to choose between the forrest and bears or me and mine I vote ME; I haint like some extreme liberals that think you should lay down and die if your being mugged or mauled cause there are too many people anyway; We are not occuping the forrest effectively anyway; there were places clearcut when I was a cubscout; and I mean COMPLETELY clear cut not like now, where the choicest healthy straight trees are left so the next generation supposedly will be stronger and more harvestable; those clear cuts have grown back to over 20-30" diameter trees that could be cut again. INSTEAD of lamenting the forrest why not lament for AGRICULTURE that is in dire need of a crop like hemp (NOT HIGH THC FEMALE DRUG CROPS) but the highfiber males that will dilute(pollinate) the high THC drug strains grown in powerline paths or in the forrest in plots of 2-5 plants; fight fire with fire; and we need the oil, vitimins, biomass, pulp for paper and yes fibre for rope, canvas, and dozens of products made from the raw material of hemp. Synthetics from petro products are fine where appropriate but with more eggheads every year calling for $60 bucks or more per barrel, a plastic milk jug is gonna more than double in price; why not put stuff in hemp paper cartons; hemp books, and I have a couple; they last way longer than stuff made from acidy paper 20-30yrs younger; I have seen it at the Law Library; so there! Occupy the forrest, if you live in the woods you know how hard it is to fight back the "jungle" unless you have some livestock to help you munch it back; Hemp dose not require nearly the massive amounts of agrochemicals pesticides and fertilizers(petro/chem industrial byproducts) that it in turn helps reduce dependancey on; now there is a cause man, stop worring about this one road of many under construction in "the boon" as the Heartwood crowd refers to the easturn HALF of Kentucky(formerly known as the Cumberland National Forrest=millions of acres not just 400,000 or what ever they say is the official Daniel Boone; By the way; where is any legislative record constitutionally granting permission by the "State of Kentucky"/"Commonwealth of Kentucky" for the fort magazine or arsenal of the Daniel Boone to exist or be occupied by federal police/rangers/law enforcement. Rep. Perry Brock (D) could not find any such record in his tennis match bouncing from one office to another for a "Forrest" in his dist. west of Louisville that was set to become a UN biosphere... Now I want the dejure legislative record that says "Be it Enacted..." not some resolution that is of no effect, go fetch; otherwise I am occuping my GOD given place in "the boone" until you can pry my glowing hot rifle from my cold dead hands. ONE THING HOWEVER; this exit will cost enuff to build three "cars only" type exits on existing roads, like 799 with a reroute for the curvy west side of the hill, 211N (with a new bridge over the Licking) AND Lower Licking Road where the slate is about to collapse onto I-64 anyway (from my past obeservations); so there!


Remote Name:
209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-09
Time:
01:19 AM

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. . Brucellosis Outbreak In Montana Cattle Herd Posted Dec 8, 2003 06:52 AM PST A horrible disease has come to Montana, and the dairy and cattle industry is now under quarantine. You have not heard this one yet, have you? The media powers that be don't want you to learn of the following story. It might hurt those who advertise so that you might drink body fluids from diseased animals. (probably what caused Mare Repo. loss Syndrome and lots of other human maladies variants of brucellosis have been patented by fronts for AMRID as biowar agents ) http://www.rense.com/general45/outbreak.htm


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209.42.182.96
Date:
2003-12-09
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01:25 AM

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165.6.108.200
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2003-12-09
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05:11 PM

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Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-09
Time:
09:13 PM

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To 209.42.182.96 Oh don’t get me wrong, I agree with you whole-heartedly. We don’t want this website to be shut down. There are some good informative articles developing here on Bill’s web page. Just because something is misspelled doesn’t make it false, I never said that, wouldn’t say that. I have seen and heard many profound statements made through misspelled words. So I agree, please accept my apology for making you think I meant that! NO way. FREEDOM OF THE PRESS all the way. We need to keep all the open forums we can, before Ashcroft takes more of our liberties away. On another note, Industrial hemp for all practical purposes will arrive in KY. Once the government is in such a financial shambles it will bring in cannabis to offset the need to not raise taxes on the average Joe and Jane. Tax on substances such, as alcohol, gas, petroleum, cigs., etc. will help our economy when nothing else does. We live in a recycled economy now. Greenspan can adjust all he wants but until we create products and sell them fairly and pay decent wages are economy is done for. Reagan spent us in to a hole, as has the Bush’s most of it on nonsense. Reagan spent 3 trillion on defense; Bush number 1 cut military bases and spending. Clinton did some good and now George W is ruining it again. The economy reports are that we are on an upswing, DAH! Its Christmas time Georgie! It always happens. No one in middle American (60%) wants to see a struggle at Christmas. SO WE SPEND. Back to my article on the road, we don’t need it and we can’t afford it. On your issue of all the animals coming back as a Native American, good bring them back, because we have been pisspoor stewards of the earth doesn’t mean they should thrive. There are two many of us as well but no one really discusses that. By the year 2012 we will have 12 Billion people. We grow at an average rate of 390,000 people a day, 140,000 die so add 250,000. Exponentially we will out strip our food supply in sub-sharing Africa in 15 years. We need to boost food production by 100% just to keep their starvation rate at 80%. Jeez, what will we do? BOMB them? If George stays in that will be one way. Watch him suspend the constitution and make himself KING, HA, just a joke for all the conspiracy folks out there! We are in trouble as a world society. The animals are the least of our worries; you better worry about your rights, your family, and your home. They are slowing slipping away. Maybe Orwell was right? Leave the animals alone, fight the real problems; Lawyers, Politicians, Insurance companies, Multinational conglomerates and TV news anchors who think they understand what is going on. Yeah right. Well this is J. R. Wilding signing off. See you tomorrow! Where are you Mr. Grant??????


Remote Name:
209.42.182.195
Date:
2003-12-09
Time:
11:20 PM

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Shut Up, Don't Think, Don't Learn From Others or You're Fired By Starr Kelso OpEdNews.Com ((this kinda stuff will eventually blow up in their face as somebody goes off the deep end and (appropriately) respondes to this lawlessness with a little bulldozer work? . . . Michael Edmondson worked for the same company in the tiny one company town of Elk City, Idaho for 22 years. He worked his way up from laborer to supervisor. Along the way he lost his left thumb in a work accident and later injured his lungs in a fire at work. On his last work evaluation he received all “very good” marks from his plant manager. He was awarded Idaho’s first Gem Citizen Award for his community involvement in public projects. By all accounts he was an exemplary employee who gave 200% to “his” company. A public meeting was posted on the company bulletin board encouraging all to attend a meeting to “Save Elk City.” He went to the meeting. He did not speak up at the meeting or express any opinions to fellow employees at work or otherwise on the issues discussed. Within days of Michael’s attending the meeting a decision to fire him was made by the company’s general manager. He ordered the plant manager to fire him. This manager testified he did not know why he was ordered to fire Michael, but he followed his orders. The general manager testified that he fired Michael for attending the public meeting and, when he made the decision, he was not aware of his “very good” work evaluation. The Idaho Supreme Court upheld the lower court’s ruling that the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution does not establish a “public policy” supporting free speech/free association. Thus under Idaho’s “at-will” doctrine where an employee can be fired at any time for any reason so long as it doesn’t violate “public policy,” the Idaho Court held that the firing was fine because free speech/free association is not a public policy of Idaho, and apparently not any state other than Montana. The lone dissent on Idaho’s Court warned that “allowing employers to terminate employment based on an individual’s association and speech regarding public issues . . .invites employers to squelch the association, speech and debate so necessary to our system of government.” As Idaho’s largest daily paper, The Idaho Statesman, concisely stated in its editorial, “Supreme Court speaks: Shut up and get to work.” The Idaho Court, during questioning by one of the members of the majority decision, clarified the extent of the ruling. He asked employer’s counsel whether Michael could be legally fired just for marrying a woman of color. The answer was yes! Don’t think for a moment that Idaho is alone and you are immune. All states, except Montana, recognize the “at-will” employment common law rule. The next time you go to an environmental meeting, a forest users group meeting, or even marry a person of another race, creed or color, remember that you can legally be fired from your job - even if you are an exemplary employee. To be protected you need to get permission from your employer, in writing, before doing anything away from work, even attending a 4th of July parade. During World War II, Franklin D. Roosevelt spoke of the most fundamental freedom held by U.S. citizens - Free Speech - anyone and everyone can have a voice in America - President Bush in response to protesters recently reaffirmed the protestors’ fundamental right to voice their opinions. We cannot let this right be taken away. Mr. Edmondson needs help. His tragic story has been aired nationwide on CNN’s Newsnight with Aaron Brown and Thom Hartman’s nationally syndicated talk show. He needs your help, financially, in order to prepare and file the necessary documents so that he can place this issue before our U.S. Supreme Court. Time is short - less than 30 days. For a free America - help is needed now. Send Contributions to: Starr Kelso (Mike Edmondson Fund) Employment Law Center P.O. Box 1312 1621 N. 3rd Street Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816-1312


Remote Name:
209.42.182.195
Date:
2003-12-09
Time:
11:23 PM

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^ http://www.opednews.com/kelso1203_shut_up.htm oops? last story link^


Remote Name:
209.42.182.195
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
12:02 AM

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Check out the "Georgia Guidestones" for the elete plan to get rid of 6billon leaving 500,000 in the age of reason" to balence with nature, Global warming will happen as will the next ICE age no matter what we do. The Decay in the magnet field of the Earth has much more alarming implications for osteoperosis of all vertibrates,the space programs found out that by using artifical magnets on orbit bone loss could be slowed down to a practical level since radiation prevents perminate residence; make one wonder how they survived the moon missions huh? The dinosaurs lived with Global warming and 28lbs of atmospheric pressure that allowed terridactles and 2foot dragonflys to stay aloft; some of the elete sleep in hypobaric chambers to infuse more O2 at present gas ratios to maintain healthy tissues; dont be a smuck for heartstring fundraisers that appear to have a cause but are funded by big business behind the scenes for some diabolical purposes, send in your donations to save the earth . . .


Remote Name:
209.42.182.195
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
12:05 AM

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Remote Name:
128.163.41.17
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
11:03 AM

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I just love your web site. I am a journalism student at U.K. and even though my spelling isn't that good, I would like a job helping you with the MoreheadNews.com.  I think I would be able to help make your site more professional and assist you in helping the community of Morehead.  I am transfering to Morehead State next semester.  Please email me!


Remote Name:
205.204.242.21
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
01:47 PM

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Remote Name:
66.199.38.82
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
04:49 PM

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there is no scaggs road community council but there was a responce to an alledged abduction that was responded to by the Rowan County Rescue squad and the search was called off based on witness accounts after assesing the situation they realised if the witness reports were true WHAT could they do? The incidence did not occur on the skaggs road behind the Wal mart however, it was over in Fleming Co. supposedly; but the incident report for those really interested should be on file at the rescue squad and was given to the two "Investigators" from Cincinatti, according to my annonomys source.


Remote Name:
66.199.38.82
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
04:57 PM

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Now I haint fer new math or outcummed based educashun but Who cares? go help the ketsup industry standardise how to spell catsup; if the consept is conveyed who gives a knats knose. Evar day you see all kindes of misspell comercial logos and slogans and product names, due sumin bout dat furst!


Remote Name:
66.199.38.82
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
05:29 PM

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FIELD INVESTIGATION, MOREHEAD, KY Around 3:30 P.M. on Dec. 5th, 2003 we arrived in Morehead, Kentucky and after photographing the area we stopped to speak with the resident at 472 Skaggs Rd. (his name is on file). We had some concern that the NUFORC report originated from a resident of "472 Skaggs Road" (this location is listed on the original NUFORC report), but this was not the case as the resident at 472 did not report anything to NUFORC, reporting the 11/21 situation only to the police department. This gentleman, who had heard the screams and called the police, recalled that the situation began -he thought- around 7:00 p.m. on Friday, Nov. 21 when he heard blood curdling screams coming from the field behind his house. He told us that the screams consisted of 3 verbal sounds of "Help me, Oh God, somebody help me!" and 1 long nonverbal scream. According to this witness, the duration of the blood curdling screams lasted about 2-minutes. He said that within 20 minutes he had called the police. He recalled that the police, fire and rescue squad searched the field up until about 10 p.m.. The witness said that he also conducted a short search. When asked if the screams sounded like someone in trouble, the witness replied with a worried expression that the person sounded to be in certain distress. He said that he did not see a UFO, but did add that the animals in the neighborhood were behaving wildly. The witness agreed to an over-the-shoulder photo of him pointing into the field where he heard the screams. Next we stopped at the home of the first UFO witness, a UK psychologist. This house is almost one quarter of a mile up a winding road from our first subject. We arrived at his home at around 3:55 p.m. and spoke at length to the witness. He recounted the event for us. He added that during the UFO sighting, his son tried to use his cell phone but it would not work. He again said that the search and rescue personnel arrived in the field 20-minutes after the UFO had departed. The UK psychologist informed that after the report of this incident appeared on the internet, he received calls and E-mails from folks with the University of New Mexico and others (he copied us on two E-mails). He said that he did read the article online and said it was largely accurate, except that only 1 of his two sons had heard the scream. He said that the screams were heard by his son who was accompanied by a friend. The witness agreed to an over-the-shoulder photo of him pointing toward the field where the UFO was sighted. Our next stop was at Shoney's restaurant near the Interstate 64 exit at Morehead. While there we spoke to a waitress and asked if anyone there had seen a UFO recently. The waitress was shocked and told us that about two weeks earlier, she was riding with her sister when they noticed an unusual yellow light in the sky. She said they watched and discussed the light for about 30 seconds. When asked to point to the area where she saw the object, she gestured toward the Skaggs Road vicinity. She also said that on a Sunday evening, also around 2 weeks ago, she was kept awake by a helicopter flying repeatedly over her house from 11:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. At around 5:30 p.m. we went to the home of a volunteer paramedic with the Fire and Rescue Squad of Morehead. After a chat with this person, we then drove directly to the Rowan County Fire and Rescue Squad and at approx. 5:45 p.m. sat down at a folding table for a brief chat with several Rowan County Fire and Rescue Squad personnel in the center of the fire house. A few of the officers present had participated in the search and rescue operation. They advised that the call about the screaming woman had been first reported by a resident on 472 Skaggs Rd. on Nov. 21 at 21:45 military time, or 9:45 p.m. E.D.T. They, along with the Morehead police, responded and found no one. There was no helicopter involved in the search operation, and they focused on a pond in the area. They used a thermal imaging device. They were also asked about the report of a 'baby' seen in the area and, referring to their logs, said that there was an unusual report from a female motorist from Indiana on Thanksgiving morning. The motorist, traveling near Morehead, had called around 4:00 a.m. to report a 3-year old baby wearing only a diaper walking near the roadside near Route 60. The motorist did not stop to help but only continued on, calling from a location miles away. The police responded but found no baby, and no baby was reported missing. When asked for any other reports of unusual interest, we were told that months earlier, persons had complained of a helicopter or airplane crash in the county when no wreckage could be found, and a separate report from Flemingsburg, KY almost 6-months earlier of a woman found in a field with amnesia. Altogether, we spoke to 5 members of the Rowan County Rescue Squad and three of these people were involved in the search. They told us that they had only heard rumors of the UFO sighting involving a female abduction, and they suggested the police may know more. One officer referenced the UK psychologist as the witness to the UFO abducting a woman, but we explained that this was not his testimony. It appears the report of a 'baby' does not directly relate to the Nov. 21 incident (Note: The Police Dept. earlier said the search for the 'screaming woman' was on Sunday the 23rd, but when checking the fire department run sheets, nothing could be found under that date.) Our final stop at the Silver Road residence of Mrs. Woods, who also claims to have also seen a UFO on Friday, Nov. 21st. We arrived at Approx. 6:15 p.m. and Mrs. Woods (name changed, on file), told us that she and her daughter had been putting up Christmas lights outside. It was dusk when they were finishing up. We pressed her on the time and she held to her belief that it was around 6:30 p.m. when they were finishing up and had spotted a white light in the vicinity of the field. She described the light as "zig zagging" around and coming down. Once behind the trees it looked to be jumping up and down and reminded her corn popping up. She said that she bent over for a moment, looked back up and the light was gone. She said that the animals were going crazy in the neighborhood and that her own dog had hid under the bed whimpering. She also said that she did not hear the screams, but when she came back into the house the phones were ringing and people were calling to see if she and her daughter were all right. Apparently they had heard about the screaming woman over police scanners, and thought it might have been Mrs. Woods and her daughter. She said that after the UFO sighting, her clocks were not working properly and several had quit working altogether. She also spoke of nose bleeds since the UFO sighting, but believes they are a result of her home being too dry. She was not prompted on these questions and volunteered them without being led. We thanked Mrs. Woods for her time and we left approx. 7:00 p.m. Filed, December 8, 2003 Donnie Blessing, Kenny Young http://home.fuse.net/ufo/morehead703.html


Remote Name:
66.199.38.82
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
06:28 PM

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http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1613 The rate of expansion in oil use vs oil production is touted as the problem not that oil is being used up. Under intellegent design scenearo you have to consider that the planet's oil might be a way to evenly distribute internal and external heat for a more evenly inhabitable climate and to guard against too much volcanic activity so considering that; global warming takes on a whole new danger not atmospheric but from LAVA Eruptions as we have disturbed the earths radiator heat distribution system? HOWEVER if it is by design the designer built in a failsafe having forseen this behaviour, just like the oceans red and green algae fluctuate with oxegen/co2 ratio to balance things out; I think things will be O.K. Yeshua Yah has the whole world in his hands . . . Oil Mysteriously Appearing in Dry Wells 04-Jun-2002 Around the world, geologists are noticing that old, dry oil wells are mysteriously filling back up. New oil is also being discovered in fields where it previously hasn’t existed. Mahlon Kennicutt of Texas A&M University thinks the new oil is surging upward from deposits deep below the ones currently being used. "Very light oil and gas were being injected from below, even as the producing was going on," he says. This suggests there’s much more oil available than we thought. In 1995, Jean Whelan of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts also found evidence that oil was moving upward from somewhere far deep inside the Earth. With new oil drilling technology, it may soon be possible to tap these deep deposits, for an almost limitless amount of future oil. This brings up questions about what oil and natural gas are made of. It’s always been thought this is they are the remains of long-dead plants and animals from dinosaur days. But if oil exists deep inside the Earth, is can’t be true, since life exists only on the surface of the Earth. Thomas Gold of Cornell believes oil and gas are the remains of methane left over from the Earth's origin. Methane is one of the most common minerals in the universe. If this is true, we’ll be able to find oil and gas everywhere, if we dig down deep enough . . . http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1613 the flipside?http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3375


Remote Name:
66.199.38.125
Date:
2003-12-10
Time:
06:59 PM

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The Helecopter reported in this UFO story is possiblly the air ambulance parked behind Ramada Inn infront of the Morehead Flea Market on a regular basis; The glide path for returns from Lexington would be over the skaggs road direction as the Pilot is probably vectoring on the cell tower on the ridge above as a reference when VFR conditions allow. Two trips to Lexington an back might seem like the chopper what hovering around as the rate of desent these guys use is slow and steady.


Remote Name:
209.42.182.21
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
12:25 AM

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Look since you cannot prove that there is no "Father in heaven" that spoke everything into into existance; I'm gonna go with the orders to "subdue the earth" and that the "earth was not created in vain but to be inhabited"(Hosea); Yes people do talk about alledged overpopulation; and as a "Native American" I too appriciate nature but we Americans "white" or malungeon or Caucasion or Shawnee are being intermarried and interbred out of existance due to the fertility rates of other less industrialised and feminised ethnic groups. Now that haint racist that is just plain and simple facts. There are a billion+ chinese a billion hindus, a billion muslium, billion african? a billion cathlolic, none except "chinese" are of the same race. The "Several States" are occupied by at most 260million people that arent illegal or visitors. Less than 200 million are "white" people or indiginous precolumbian desendants. So world wide who is the "minority" that needs protecting; Heck the WWF probably gets their coffee mugs for their donors from some chinese company that is not EPA/Kyoto compliant as far as waste emmissions. Pre Colombian tribes did not act like nature lovers when they stampeded buffalo heards over raveens killin way more than could be used without wasteing. Thanks to a white man the cherokee developed a written language and a settlement cultivating the land in North Carolina/Tennesee that was given back to them under the international law/Laws of Nations provision of occupation by cultivation of the land, which is a commandment for Adamic man from Genesys. The inhumane crimes against the "Indians" are not excused by many groups savage, pagan, violent cultures; but to make these peoples out to be some peaceful nature lovers is also an injustice and inaccurate romantisism; Pre Columbians did Regular burns of the forrest and grasslands to drive out wildlife and as a happy accident it renewed the woods, as is needed for its health, as senceable logging can also do; WE DO NOT NEED LARGE CARNIVORES to have a viable forrest ecosystem or overpopulated deer and elk to sell hunting licences; heck there are too many rabbies carrying coon and opossium let alone Black Bears and wolves, wildcats, cougars/pant'ers et c. According to the EPA.gov heritage rivers project webpage there are no "tribal nations" known for the licking river watershed so if/when it is declared a core UNbiosphere zone there will be NO HUMANS ALLOWED and only excursions by "scientists" into the buffer areas that would surround the ~19? county area; look it up. And get ready to move or fight it out unless "THEY" release big bioweapon disquised as a terror attack, to kill us out of the UN asset due to default on Fed Reserve Obligations? or some other fake fraud. The "Age Of Reason" crowd and the UN enviro extremeists have a agenda driven hostility toward our way of life and Natural Rights Republic; while IGNORING the disasters of FREE TRADE where the race to the cheepest labor has left an unlevel field destroying our manufacturing base that was subject to tougher enviromental laws and compliance was way higher overall. As Jefferson warned we can "wake up homeless in the land our fathers conquered." I see a big black bear, pant'er et c, I am shooting in it under the same concept of "thou shall not suffer a witch to live" cause the thing might kill or harm my neighbor or child. If the thing is in my front yard or not in a fort magazine or arsonal, post office, or other federal area in haint in interstate commerce and not governed by any federal regualtions, and maybe not state statuets as there is the common law right(GOD given right) of self preservation! (not legal advice of course, due your own research and have pleanty of motions and legal devices handy to bury em with paper if you get charged for protecting yourself)


Remote Name:
209.42.182.21
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
01:17 AM

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http://www.ibiblio.org/lunarbin/worldpop Those population stats above dont add up: 250,000 a day works out to be a 4.2billion for a total by 2050 of ~10.2billion but thats not accounting for the known slow down in growth rate. These figures have been revised again just this week in the news. Looking out to 300 years http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20031209/ts_usatoday/12062182want to do the math? http://www.learner.org/exhibits/dailymath/population.html


Remote Name:
209.42.182.21
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
01:23 AM

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http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_490084,00020008.htm OPEC may trade oil in euros to compensate for dollar decline (and cause further decline)) Associated Press Caracas (Venezuela), December 10 OPEC Secretary General Alvaro Silva said the organisation is considering trading oil in euros to compensate for the US dollar's decline in value. Another alternative is to trade in a basket of currencies other than the greenback, Silva told Venezuela's state news agency, Venpres. "There is a talk of trading crude in euros. It is one of the alternatives," the former Venezuelan oil minister said from Vienna late on Monday. "It is possible that the organisation will discuss that, and make a decision at some point in time," he said. Silva did not provide more details. . . .


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
02:27 PM

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On the issue of native americans and big animals roaming the area. The are as many scarey folks out there that will hurt your child than will a bear or elk or bison. Give me a break. Prove God, prove any theological issue. You can't nor can I prove that wrong. To go out a kill for the sake of killing is what I consider a sin. Population growth is not slowing. Are bears threating your children?? Gosh, where do you live? That is funny we don't hear about this any other way than from you? As a zoologist for the state I am suprised that a black bear would attack anyone. They don't typically eat meat and they don't chase you unless threated or provoked. Are you children provoking bears. We run them out of their natural habitat so now you want to kill them becuase they just looking for a place to live and reproduce. Has an Elk threatened you? YOu might have native american ancestory but you sure don't practice the red road ways do you? What level of blood line are you. What do you know about them. Have you read any Momaday or Deloria. Do you know the sacred pipes ways of the Lakota, Cherokee and Shawnee. Who are your elders? What is your name? Mine is Awanyanke Lutah Makah? Tell me more of lineage. I am concerned for you and the bears. Are you all war. DId you know that Bears are half human and healers among our people? TO kill one is to kill a human? Would you do that. I can understand if they are threatening you. I live in the deep woods of Eastern KY and I see bear, cougar, wildcat, fox, coyote, we have stock, children, pets and they are never chased, mauled or eaten? What is going on in your area, maybe it is UFO's? I don't mean to sound sarcasstic but I am truly interested. We need to do some cleansing ceremonies for you, because if they animals are threatening your family, you have done something they are upset with.


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
02:43 PM

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Well I first of all never implied again that Native Americans were fun-loving hippies and nature lovers. The last article on this list was also written by someone at my computer and not me. First of all to the person who is under the subdue by nature order. I agree, I can't prove a Higher level, that is why many of us call it the Great Mystery. Nor did I say the First Nations people didn't kill each other, burn forrest or kill animals. HOwever, they did eat what they killed, utilized it parts, (Did you know that every part of the buffalo was used, every part) unlike the Whites who just took Tongues and hides. The later they took the skull when they found out that people would pay for them to hang them on the walls. The First nations people were not geo-politcal they killed for food storages, for boundary. They didn't kill for oil and money. If they had been truly savage, they would have killed every white man or woman that stepped on their shores. I would suggest to you to read, God is Read by Deloria and Red Earth, WHite Lies by the same profound author, since the other person at my computer made mention of them. I am curious by what was written are you being threatened by animals? What part of KY do you live in if that is happening. YOu seem to have some geniune interest in Native Americans, did you know that they were not all pagans, and that many saw the four-legged creatures as their brothers, however, when the took a life, they prayed for it and recognized its worth. Unlike the savages out hunting today for pure sport and to prove their manhood. Granted we overrun by deers and I have hit several, but when we destroy the forrest and move them out of their homes what can we expect. Go west and look at the damage we have created. I understand the population and religion issues. I teach those subjects for UK. Religion has been the biggest problem in history. As Marx said it is the opiate of the people. It causes over-population and greed, wars, and terrorism. People profess to be religious and I don't doubt their belief but are they spiritual. The First nations had their same fantatics and destroyers of their own culture. When the reservation systems came in there was plenty of ethnocentrism and xenocentrism on everyones part. Japan bombed pearl harbor but that didn't make all individuals from Japan evil, but this country treated them as such. Because Osama or whoever cause us terror in this country, doesn't mean all arabic world and its people are evil. WE have more people in prision on false charges and for political issues than any country in the world. GM has a larger income than all but five countries in the world. There are many problems. Shooting bears and burning witches will not fix them.


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
08:51 PM

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FOlks, I hate to tell you this but I am from Scaggs road and there is not milita or community group. It is a road that connects 60 to 32 via a subdivision. I know the Psychologist you speak of. I know the Physicians that live out that way. The UFO was a helicopter, people have blown this out of proportion. Milita, that is too funny.


Remote Name:
209.42.182.33
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
09:57 PM

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The LAW is for man's benifit, if man dosent want to follow it, you lose the benifit; the benifit of the sabboth; the benifit of leting your field lie fallow every 7the year; the benifit of your days being lone upon the earth, the benifit of a subdued earth et c... If you reject Him he will hand you over to a reprobate mind and grand dellusion, and you will not know of it because you are deluded, duh; I cannot imagine my conciousness not exisiting and neither can you; but the second death is final; if you fear it not because of some "Great Mystery" then your sound decieved from the simplicity that is in "Emmanuel"(christ). Pagans think are to be revered. I do worship that which is created, as that is in vain, any space aliens or other lifeforms are created, no matter how powerfull their techknowlegy might be(if they exist) it is no cause for worship; and you should do an exaustive study of the "Man and the Biosphere" UN project goal and the "eggheads" that dont think it goes far enuff. The heritage rivers project is another land grab under the guise of protecting the environment, the pollution credit exchange, EPA2 et c. ad nausium. WAKE UP! before your disposed of in a EPA compliant conveyor OVEN like cordwood, cause the GREAT MYSTERY demands it. These programs are not all being pushed along by the guberment, but with non-government/reinvention of government concept, private foundations are covertly being funded to "aquire forrest lands" and push us all; tribal or aledged "first nations" or not into approved population centers, and no it's not theory, it is documented, in position papers, and seminars et c. et c....


Remote Name:
209.42.182.33
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
10:02 PM

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thanks to crappy phone lines that last post (and others) have commpression errors like the distortion of the word "long" into "lone" a artifact of the compression of ASCII code...


Remote Name:
209.42.182.155
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
10:52 PM

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Skaggs road connects Forrest Hills to 3319 (that was closed due to a slip past I64 underpass, youre just a little slow about the militia joke I guess. BUT seriously the law is every ablebodied (non-vetran) man from 18 to 45 is in the unorganised militia and is responcible for his own markmanship skills. Happy 100th birthday to the CMP civilian markmanship program started in 1903, you do have your Springfield or 30.06 Graand dont you? That goes for Skaggs road or anywhere in the "several states"


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
11:17 PM

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I am not sure who is more terror stricken, the mispelled goobermnet or you. I have figured you out. First of all I submit to no law, by man. I am not a Christian, wouldn't want to be. I am not a pagan, I am me. I got your milita joke, DUH! You want to scare people, well for the few of us who are screwing with you, we are winning and you are showing your total ignorance of so many issues. You have been listening to Fox news and talk radio to much. This is what demeans a page like this. Ludicrous ideas, thought I support your right to think and write about them. Milita. The only one I am a part of is my family. THe rest of the world can take a flying leap. In the matters of conscience the law of the majority has no rule. A great man once said that. research that issue? You are reading the wrong environmental pamphlets and proganda. If you think I support the Nature Conservancy or Greenpeace or Ralph Nader or whoever, you are sadly mistaken and you obviously cannot read between the lines. I don't have time to waste with you. I had more hope for you than that. I am the way, however, I can save you.


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
11:22 PM

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One more thing I forgot. The phone lines are tapped becareful and who's law are you talking about? I don't want to be part of any biosphere or law. THere is no such thing as Anarchy. There is always a greed-stricken individual who attempt to becom a leader during chaos. What has the milita done lately? The are just a much blame as the policy wonks. You speak against that but support hte other. Your thought process is not a solution but still part of the problem. We are all prisoners!


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-11
Time:
11:25 PM

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I guess I am not as bright as I thought. Bill is this format for racist?

 


Remote Name:
147.133.54.201
Date:
2003-12-12
Time:   
1:23 AM

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I HOPE THERE IS NO RASISM GOING ON HERE!  EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO THERE OWN OPINION BUT RASISM IS GOING TO FAR!  I HAVENT SEEN ANY TRUE RASISM BUT I HAVE DELETED SOME CUSSWORD POSTS.  I AM A TOP NEWS MAN AND AM GIVING YOU THE CHANCE TOO RIGHT YOUR OWN NEWS STORY.  IF THE STORYS ABOUT THE SKAGGS ROAD MILITIA ARE FALSE THEM THEY LIED TO ME AND THAT IS BAD BUT I AM DOING THE BEST JOB I CAN.  ITS HARD BEING A TOP NEWS MAN!  BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE NICE ON HERE BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE SAME TOWN AND SHOULD GET ALONG GOOD!!!!!!!

BILL GREENE - TOP NEWS MAN


Remote Name:
24.51.179.94
Date:
2003-12-12
Time:
09:05 AM

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Bill, you are a top newsman in my book. You are doing the right thing by exposing and trying to find out the TRUTH. Be careful my friend. I enjoy your page. As a Native American who practices many of the old ways I worry about those who claim to be what they are not and some of the ideas and what they are trying to pass off as fact. It troubles me. Walk the good red road my friend. It will take you to the true human path not the one of milita or government. They are both dangerous. Wilding


Remote Name:
206.28.53.42
Date:
2003-12-12
Time:
11:28 AM

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CENSORSHIP LEADS TO IGNORANCE. Ignor-ance a deliberate act. Every one is IGNOR-ing things cause only GOD is All Knowing, so there. There is no reason to use ugly words( profanity) to talk about ugly topics however, that censorship is justified to keep the dialog out of the gutter. There is a "UN man and the biosphere project" and a heritage rivers project et c. and yes there is a Georgia guidestones monument that calls for the mass elimination of people down to 500,000. The only way to possibily foil diabolicle stuff like this is to expose it. And you have unveiled your self as a "my way or no way" self worshiping extremeist. Propaganda means to propagate information a more accurate term is Propadgenda to refer to all the factoids bantered about to support various positions, but do not pretend, or fool yourself into thinking that something you "believe" is a fact. The stories on this page are easily searchable if they dont have links and FOX news dont cover this stuff in any kind of detail nor does TV news in general as it is a fleeting medium not like print where you can take your time and study what is presented to "read between the lines". Go waste your time somewhere else if you cant put up links to support your claims. Current militia law: http://www.geocities.com/irby.geo/fed/cma.html http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/Censored/13_02%20Kentucky%20Militia%20Leader%20.htm


Remote Name:
66.199.38.237
Date:
2003-12-12
Time:
06:16 PM

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There is no law against being a racist( and it would be unenforcable ) but you do have the right/riek to be ignorant. By FDR's Double speak &