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Remote Name:: 206.28.58.36
Date:: 2003-09-09
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Remote Name:: 205.188.208.8
Date:: 2003-08-28
Time:: 12:30 PM

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Remote Name:: 206.28.58.77
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 10:20 AM

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you people that don't like borehead cantucky sound depressed and the sergen general ,a few yrs back, under clinton said all americans need medication so get yerself some zoloft if the floride, estrogen mimicking junk and the ritilin aint passifin you enuff .... -------------------------------------------------- Posted on Wed, Aug. 27, 2003 Antidepressant Zoloft also works in kids, study says BY LINDSEY TANNER Associated Press CHICAGO - The antidepressant Zoloft works in children, too, according to the biggest study ever to look at the question. In a study of 376 youngsters ages 6 through 17 with major depression, Zoloft worked better than dummy pills at reducing symptoms. Sixty-nine percent of children who took Zoloft for 10 weeks showed a substantial reduction in symptoms, compared with 59 percent who took dummy pills. While that difference was not huge, the findings are significant because depression treatments have frequently failed to outperform placebos in previous research in children, said Dr. Christopher Varley a University of Washington psychiatry professor. Children tend to respond to placebos more than adults do because they are more suggestible, said Varley, who wrote an editorial accompanying the study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association. The study was funded by Pfizer Inc., which makes Zoloft. Many doctors already prescribe Zoloft for depressed children based on evidence that it works in adults, and will welcome results affirming that practice, Varley said. ''There's a crying need for all sorts of studies like this one,'' Varley said. Study author Dr. Karen Dineen Wagner agreed. ''We have very little information about what's safe and effective for treating this disorder in youth,'' said Wagner, director of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston. By some estimates, depression affects as many as 8 percent of teenagers and 3 percent of younger children. Zoloft's side effects in children included diarrhea and agitation but were mostly mild and uncommon. Prozac is the only newer antidepressant officially approved for treating depression in children. The government recently warned against using a similar drug, Paxil, in youngsters because of a potential increased risk of suicide. Both drugs and Zoloft are called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which increase brain activity of the mood-regulating chemical serotonin.

Remote Name:: 206.28.58.77
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 10:35 AM

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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=438103 "Stay where you are: fateful advice to twin towers victims reopens Manhattan's wounds" ((These cant be all the transcripts, what about those that were refused for "National Security" and those "responders" that were told not to talk of hearing muliple explosions (like demolition charges) (then there are those pesky security camera tapes from OKC Murrah bombing that noone can see for "National Security Reasons" At least we have Ammad Salaam's shrude story of recourding his FBI handler telling him to use the real bomb powder in 1993's WTC bombing and don't just have to be suspious of a set up... TechKnomen )) By David Usborne in New York 29 August 2003... Transcripts of desperate conversations between people trapped in the World Trade Centre on 11 September, 2001, and the emergency services reveal that people in the second tower were told to stay where they were even as the first tower began to smoke and burn after it was struck by a hijacked airliner. While the full impact of that advice will likely never be known, it is likely some people who could have fled, lost their lives when the second plane struck because they had stayed ...

Remote Name:: 206.28.58.77
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 10:53 AM

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When is an oath under a sword just for fun? when is a prayer with witches? just a ceremony? 'rounhere you can point yer TV antenna to the west an get ch 3 from Louisville; to the east you get ch 3 from Huntington, witchways yer antenae pointed? . . . from http://www.telegraph.co.uk or http://www.infowars.com et c. Rowan Williams apologises to Freemasons By Chris Hastings and Elizabeth Day (Filed: 20/04/2003) The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, has been forced to apologise to Britain's 330,000 Freemasons after he said that their beliefs were incompatible with Christianity and that he had rejected them from senior posts in his diocese. Dr Williams has written to Robert Morrow, the Grand Secretary of the United Grand Lodge of England, in an attempt to defuse the row prompted by comments he made last year. In his letter, the Archbishop apologises for the "distress" he caused and discloses that his own father was a member of the Craft. Freemasons, many of whom are active members of the Church of England, reacted angrily to his disclosure that he "had real misgivings about the compatibility of Masonry and Christian profession" and by his admission that, as Bishop of Monmouth, he had blocked the appointment of Freemasons to senior appointments. His comments about Freemasons were in a private letter leaked to the media shortly after Downing Street confirmed his appointment as head of the Church of England. Subsequent attempts by his advisers to defuse the row only caused further offence. A spokesman said the Archbishop was worried about the ritual element of Freemasonry, which has been seen as "satanically inspired". In his letter of apology, Dr Williams tries to distance himself from his own reported comments. He claims that his views were never meant to be public and were distorted by the media. He wrote: "I have been sorry to learn of the distress of a considerable number of Freemasons . . . In replying to private correspondence, I had no intention of starting a public debate nor of questioning the good faith and generosity of individual Freemasons and I regret the tone and content of the media coverage." He added: "The quoted statements about the 'satanic' character of the Masonic ceremonies and other matters did not come from me and do not represent my judgment. Since my late father was a member of the Craft for many years, I have had every opportunity of observing the probity of individual members." Dr Williams does not, in his letter, deny that he has misgivings about the role of Freemasons within the Church. He wrote: "Where anxieties exist, however, they are in relation not to Freemasonry but to Christian ministers subscribing to what could be and often is understood [or misunderstood] as a private system of profession and initiation, involving the taking of oaths of loyalty." He ends his letter by stating that Freemasons' commitment to charity and the community is beyond question. 19 February 2003: 'Are you Masons?' challenge to judges 13 April 2002: Masons end their black tie affair ^ above is from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/20/nmason20.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/20/ixhome.html also see: http://www.druidorder.demon.co.uk/archie.htm http://www.bushcountry.org/news/columnists/jreynalds/c_080802_jreynalds_pagan-archbishop.htm see you at the pagan rituals out at klack mountain??? oooooooo happy all souls day??? not!

Remote Name:: 206.28.58.77
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 11:08 AM

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At least at other universities this stuff gets reported rather than covered up by diverting calls from the univ. clinic to "crises counciling",(which avoids a police report manditory reporting of it by law)and makes scapegoats of clinic workers that are "under orders" http://www.thelouisvillechannel.com/news/2440367/detail.html "Another Rape Reported At WKU Freshman Arrested, But Not Charged Police at Western Kentucky University are investigating a reported rape in a dorm there. It allegedly happened Saturday at Barnes-Campbell Hall, a co-ed dormitory for first-year students, WLKY NewsChannel 32 reported. A school spokesman said a male freshman from the Nashville, Tenn., area is a suspect but hasn't been charged. Campus police arrested him Sunday, and charged him with alcohol intoxication, WLKY reported. ...

Remote Name:: 206.28.58.77
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 11:18 AM

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Attention Cat owners what to do? I asked at the vets office go no real answer... Alarms not just for pregnant and immuno suppressed.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/18/ncats18.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/01/18/ixhome.html Parasite from cats blamed for brain and birth defects By Roger Highfield, Science Editor (Filed: 18/01/2003) The domestic cat and the rise of agriculture have spread a parasite that causes devastating birth defects in humans, according to a study published yesterday. More than a quarter of the world's population is now infected with toxoplasma gondii, a relative of the malaria bug. Infected people with weakened immunity often develop acute toxoplasmosis, which can lead to birth defects, brain inflammation and vision problems. It has also been suggested that the parasite, which invades the brain, may influence behaviour and trigger schizophrenia. An Anglo-American team reported yesterday in the journal Science how the organism came to infest almost all animals. Although it can sexually reproduce only in cats, the creature mutated so it could asexually reproduce in a vast range of warm-blooded hosts, including humans. Dr David Sibley and colleagues at Washington University, St Louis, Cambridge University and the University of Georgia claim that the three main strains of the toxoplasma arise from a single mating about 10,000 years ago. This allowed these parasites to abstain from sex and made being eaten an attractive option, so they could easily invade any warm-blooded creature. The timing of the rise of this asexual form is significant, said Dr Jim Ajioka, of Cambridge University. As the more infectious bug emerged, agriculture developed and animals such as cats were domesticated. Until recently, scientists had thought that the parasite was usually harmless, a cause for concern only to pregnant women and people with a weakened immune system, such as Aids and transplant patients. Then a team at Oxford University found that rats and mice behaved more recklessly when infected. Dr Jaroslav Flegr and colleagues at Charles University in Prague concluded that the reaction times of infected mice were slower. "This makes them more vulnerable to a feline pounce, which is exactly what the parasite wants," Dr Flegr said yesterday. Dr Flegr's team found that people with a latent infection had slower reaction times and were 2.7 times more likely to be involved in a car accident. In his latest work, he has found evidence that the parasite boosts levels of the messenger chemical dopamine in the brain. The discovery of increased levels of dopamine in infected people could link toxoplasmosis and schizophrenia. Dr Fuller Torrey, of the Stanley Medical Research Institute, Maryland, has reported that schizophrenics are more likely to be cat owners, and to have latent toxoplasmosis. 24 June 1999[Connected]: Parasite lives by providing rats for cats

Remote Name:: 206.28.58.77
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 11:39 AM

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Subject: Are contracts withe the devil this subtle?Fw: Statement of the 40th Congress. > > Dosent matter does it? If you don't know your > rights you dont have any, If there is threat > duress or coersion or a lack of the meeting > of the minds i.e. full disclosure > there never was any contract. > look it up res-ident subject. > The "system" has problems don't it? > reckon THEY'll release a big terror weapon > to cover up this??????? > what if you use fedex?... > > > To: ((edited email not an advertisment)) > > Subject: Fw: Statement of the 40th Congress.. > > --- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken & Elizabeth" > > To: > Subject:Statement of the 40th Congress.. > Many have asked about the exact language of the statement from the 40th Congress which makes possible the Expatriation and Repatriation and which > gives our program so much authority. Here is the text which we are referring > to but in effect it is saying that if we are denied the right to expatriate those that do the denying are operating outside of the Government.. Here is > the text: > > > United States Statutes at Large, Vol. 15, chap. 249, page 223 of the 40th > > Congress: > > > > "An Act concerning the Rights of American Citizens in foreign States...Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of > > America in Congress assembled, That any declaration, instruction, order or decision of any Officers of this government which denies, restricts, > impairs, or questions the right of expatriation, is hereby declared inconsistent with the fundamental principles of this government." > The language of the United States Congress clearly specifies American > Citizens in foreign States, not Countries. Upon this revelation Mr. Cooper > has written a "Declaration of Expatriation/Repatriation." In addition, Mr. > Cooper has written declarations sent to the Chief Justice of the Supreme > Tribunal/court of the United State; the Governor of the State; the Chief > Justice of the Supreme Tribunal/court of the State; and, the Commissioner of > the Internal Revenue to whit all have agreed. These documents address the specified contracts and implied contracts stated by the government...." > > > > For the first time in history, that according to the United States Government, the income taxation is mandatory through dual citizenship. > > > > It was declared in the case United States of America v. Austin Gary Cooper, > > 89-109-Cr-Hoeveler that Austin had dual citizenship. Judge Hoeveler declared that Austin was both an American Citizen and a United States > > citizen. Further, the Assistant U.S. Attorney declared, in the final argument to the jury, that: > > > > "He pays Social Security, he uses the Postal Service, therefore, Mr. Cooper is a U.S. citizen." > > > > This promulgation differentiated the natural Citizenship and the contractual U.S. citizenship. Moreover, since the case was a tax evasion case, > > ascertaining jurisdiction of the federal tribunal (court) system was paramount by the U.S. government. In the only case of its kind, the U.S. > government has now proclaimed not only that we have dual citizenship, but also what the contracts are that binds us under their jurisdiction and into > the federal reserve's tax system. > > > > Hope this helps > Have a great day, > > > Ken & Elizabeth

Remote Name:: 206.28.58.77
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 12:17 PM

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Gentlemen: Insofar as John Wilkes Booth is concerned, the most eye-opening book that I ever read on that man was titled, The Lincoln Conspiracy, by: David Balsiger and Charles E. Sellier, Jr. The book was published in 1977 by Schick Sunn Classic Books, 1554 Sepulveda Blvd., Los Angeles, California 90025. The ISBN is: 0-917214-03-X, and its Library of Congress Card Number is: 77-73521. The cover of the book states that it was the basis of a "Major Motion Picture". That motion picture was aired on Channel 15 in Louisville in July of 1984 on the day that I was moving to Lexington, so I missed it. I thought that it would be replayed, but it never was. > Other good books to read are: The South Was Right, by: Kennedy & > Kennedy, published by the University of Louisiana; The Rise and fall of the Confederate Government, by: President Jefferson Davis; and The Long Surrender, by: Burke Davis. > > Deo Vindice, > > Col. M >> ----- Original Message ----- > From: @.net> > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:02 PM > Subject: Re: Whoa > LIBERIA is the country that you > > are thinking of and was created > > before the war of northern aggretion > > by Monroe I think? The slavery issue > > was used politically like drunk driving > > is used today as a sensationist issue > > to platform off of but the country's real > > problems like the massive number of > > deaths due to medical mistakes (now) > > and the northern industrialist/london connection during the antebellium era, and after the northern aggretion is and was religated to the back seat in the "news" of the day in-favor of the diversion of slavery as an excuse for more centralised power in the district of corruption . . . > > truth is liberating not depressing > > (if this is the truth), when you > > recover from the shock . . . anyway see. ya, > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > > From: To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:18 AM > > Subject: Whoa > > > > Hey, I never knew Abe Lincoln was so evil. Wanting to end the federalist values that this country was founded on and taking it away by force is insane. The question is, where did his ideas come from and who was pulling his strings, then on top of that, did who ever was pulling them create John Wilkes Booth thing to take care of him when he no longer had a use? > Very Bizare stuff. It's also depressing because Lincoln was from Kentucky. > Oh well. Also, am I correct in thinking Lincoln was a member of a group > that wanted to create a US controled country in Africa and begin shipping them back in droves? I don't know. I must go now my planet needs me. -J

Remote Name:: 206.28.44.33
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 01:50 PM

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Can anybody post a reason WHY the Emergency Managment director for Rowan County would quit during the worst Ice storm in history The guy I know would not resign unless he was being forced to do something unethical? oh well maybe he'll be replaced by sombody's nephew qualified or not. Worse yet is nobody covered the story not the snoozepaper, rad-io or that local radical on channel 5??????????????? signed curious "C"itizen

Remote Name:: 206.28.44.82
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 02:38 PM

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Should it be no suprise the lies, so bold, that have to be told to maintain the myth we are sold to live withe volunteer or not no darkie could have fought the northern onslaught pay no attention to the ancestors whose dark great grandpas desperatly deterred the grand po bas of the northern banqers lodge... (signed Y.Zamyatin's "WE" madman poet)

Remote Name:: 206.28.44.82
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 02:42 PM

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Re: What I would like to know From: charlie Comments Jasper, I agree in general with you about how this country works--the connections and who you know being more powerful that the position you hold, etc. The political philosophy is another story all together. The president doesn't actually "run" things but with him he brings his background, his connections, the powers that back him and those who are using him for their own political and social agendas. In many cases, his "backers" are way more powerful than he is. And he has to "go along" with what those backers do whether he may agree with it or not. You are correct to mention Ollie North as having more power than his station in life called for but you have to put the CIA in the mix whom I believe he had and perhaps still have strong connections with. The Ollie North/Mena/Contras situation will be the proof in the pudding that the CIA DOES--regardless of what they claim---have covert activities stationed right here in the USA. The training of the Cuban troops for the Bay of Pigs is another which was done in Florida and in Lousianna. And we both have reason to know of the School of the Americas in Ft. Benning, Ga. What many don't know is that many of the local law enforecement (due to huge amts. of Fed money coming in with strings attached) are trained in another facility in East Georgia run by the CIA. They are trained with military equipment and in wire-tapping, surveillance and swat team/military tactics (which in my opinion is the cause --or partly the cause of some the terrible tragedies when swat teams go into the Wrong house and kill somebody). This training has the potential (and the history as per Bluegrass Conspiracy and others) of being USED by government against the ordinary citizen. I think that little "picnic" that you mentioned--The Good Ole Boy Roundup--in Chattanooga, Tenn. is a prime example. Many LOCAL law enforcement personel were at that picnic/campout that weekend. The FEDS and the local cops work much more closely together (CIA, DEA, Fish and Wildlife {in recent years} BATF and more) than the normal citizen would even dream that they do. I have often wondered (because of the threats and harassment to the people who video-taped that little gathering and the timing of it) if Mark Fuhrman himself wouldn't have shown up on the video if the whole thing could have been played. They were sure anxious for WHO was on it not to be known. I happen to believe that the same requirements from the Feds that began in the 70's (the CIA training) was in effect in LA during that time and later and caused the LAPD Intelligence Squad to come into existence. The LA Secret Police as Mike Rothmiller calls them. It sure caused havoc here with The Bluegrass Conspiracy. Cops were video-taping, wire-tapping citizens (prominent citizens, NFL players, actors, actresses) using drugs, gambling, prostitution and porn---all out of a house belonging to then Democratic Governor John Y. Brown, Jr. Yet Nobody was ever arrested (Rothmiller's claim for the LA Secret Police as well). Only the files were made but nobody was ever arrested. Why? Blackmail used to FIX NFL and NBA games? Other blackmail as Daryl Gates was prone to use on the City Council, the governor, the mayor and more??? Gov. Brown was on a Fast-Track to the White House at the time, yet he lost and won a million dollars at a time in Vegas. He owned a house here in Lexington on Old Dobbin Road (a fine house) while he lived in the Governor's mansion and a man named Jimmy Lambert ran the gambling, drug, prostitution, porn, outfit out of it. A very good friend at the time was a man we heard of later with another Democratic governor by the name of Dan Lassiter. Dan Lassiter lived here in Lexington and was in the horse business and started the Ponderosa restuarants which were very popular back then. He moved on to Little Rock and became close friends with Gov. Bill Clinton and then went on to run drugs out of Mena, Arkansas by bringing back drugs on the empty planes that came back from South America. People may say, where is she going with this. Well, one of the "money" people behind this operation was a horse business woman by the name of Anita Madden. That woman at the height of the OJs trial had Kato Kalein as her houseguest. A couple of years later, she had both Phil Vannatter and Geraldo Rivera as her house guests. The next year, she had Kato back again. This woman was indicted (but managed to have charges dropped), she supplied money, was involved in game fixing in the NFL and college games, was interviewed in the disappearance/death of Melanie Flynn (a party girl) who was last seen in her presence and more. She hired somebody to break into the courthouse and steal records/evidence. She never went to jail but the guy she hired did time for the crime. This "scandal" involved Lexington cops on the Narc squad and more. Their lives were ruined. Some went to jail then and some since. A narc cop is believed to have been the one to kill Melanie Flynn (baseball player Doug Flynn's sister). The Lex PD covered it up. One of the chief people to help cover it up is now the Police Chief. One narc cop went on to bigger and better things by joining the Callie (sp) Cartelle and was killed in 1985 when his parachute failed (deliberately) when he parachuted with cocaine, secret CIA phone numbers, secret FBI and DEA secure numbers on his person. An ex-DEA agent friend of the family told me that they learned that Dan Lassiter had him killed. He also was from the "society set" here of horse business families. Governor Brown ALSO owned that Florida golfing resort that Jean speaks of at the time...that was known for the drugs, prostitution and mobster connections. At one time, actor Warren Beatty was on the board of directors of the resort. (Shapiro met with Robert Evans and Warren Beatty every week of the trial at Evan's house). At the time that he was governor, Brown was married to Phyllis Anne George EVANS Brown. Her ex-husband was Robert Evan's fame of the Cotton Club Murders and Denise's former lover and Paramount film producer. John Y. Brown, Jr. first met Phyllis Anne (former Miss America) while she was still married to Evans and they had "dealings' with each other. After the divorce of George and Evans, Brown stepped into the picture. Miss George has spent several nights in the LIncoln bedroom in the current administration. Her name has appeared on the pages of newspapers when the list has appeared. I have often wondered if the Heidi Fleiss business where LAPD cops provided security wasn't one of the operations that we had here in the Bluegrass Conspiracy. Where tapes were made and a file kept for Blackmail purposes. And perhaps the LAPD cops were working with The Company (what they called themselves here) made up of cops, ex-cops, ex-military and mercenaries that Provided "security" for drug deals and money laundering. Many of the cops and others later arrested claimed that they had been told they were working for the CIA and of course the CIA disavowed them. (Mena and Contra deal WAS CIA). Foreign troops were trained here as well. I just think the Heidi deal and other connections (whew! and this is just a few) had Intelligence connections or more. charlie

Remote Name:: 206.28.44.82
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 02:49 PM

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nutton knew about the werld odor.... (or itz connections to the locals) ("the bluegrass conspiracy" comes to mind) ... Scandals beset Ky. governors ------------------ By Kakie Urch, kurch@enquirer.com http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2002/09/29/loc_scandals_beset_ky.html The Cincinnati Enquirer FRANKFORT � The insurance scam. The contracts to friends. The cocaine ring and the gambling debt. The $35,000 piano and extortion. The hot goods and Italian Tax Police. The horse barn fire. The nursing home girlfriend. Can you match the Kentucky governor to these scandals? Try Ford, Carroll, Brown, Collins, Wilkinson, Jones and Patton, respectively. Every Kentucky governor for the past 31 years has been investigated by the FBI or a federal grand jury. None of the seven was ever charged with a crime. But Gov. Wallace Wilkinson's nephew, Bruce Wilkinson, served time for corruption, and Gov. Martha Layne Collins' husband was imprisoned for extortion. As sex-for-favors allegations swirl around Gov. Paul Patton today, newspaper accounts over the past three decades record a litany of other scandals that have enveloped the Governor's Mansion. Wendell H. Ford (1971-74) A federal grand jury recommended that Gov. Ford be indicted in connection with an insurance scheme, but the U.S. Department of Justice did not act on the recommendation. Mr. Ford went on to the U.S. Senate, where he served for 24 years, rising to minority whip. Julian M. Carroll (1974-1979) Gov. Carroll led the state through some of its toughest tragedies, including the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire that killed 165 people. He also was investigated by the FBI for allegedly favoring his friends and supporters with personal service contracts and leases. One grand jury investigation, on an insurance scam, sent Nashville-based banker Sonny Hunt, a close associate of the governor, to prison. Just a few days before Mr. Carroll left office, another federal grand jury probe was mounted into his two children's receipt of monthly $500 checks from W.B. �Bill� Terry Sr., a Lexington businessman. Mr. Carroll had pushed special conflict-of-interest legislation through the General Assembly so he could appoint Mr. Terry to the University of Kentucky Board of Trustees. Mr. Terry's Bluegrass Coca-Cola Bottling Co. had the exclusive soda contract with UK. John Y. Brown Jr. (1979-83) Gov. Brown, the owner of Kentucky Fried Chicken who brought his Miss America wife, Phyllis George, to town, was investigated by a federal grand jury about a $1.3 million cash withdrawal from a Miami bank. He testified it was to pay gambling debts. He swore in 1983 never to gamble again. Mr. Brown, one-time co-owner of Trumps nightclub in Cincinnati, and his partners were included in law enforcement and surveillance reports in connection with �The Company,� a 1970s and 1980s cocaine and gun-smuggling ring that operated out of Lexington. The Company's criminal activity included the spectacular death of former Lexington police officer Drew Thornton, who jumped out of a plane with $75 million in cocaine and a bad parachute strapped to his back, landing in a Knoxville driveway. The Company came dangerously close to Mr. Brown's circle of friends and business and political associates. It is the topic of The Bluegrass Conspiracy, Sally Denton's 1990 true-crime classic. Martha Layne Collins (1983-87) One of the nation's first six female governors, Ms. Collins chaired the Democratic National Convention one year and was considered for the vice presidential nomination eventually taken up by Geraldine Ferraro of New York. A former schoolteacher who brought Toyota and its millions in development to Georgetown, Ms. Collins was investigated after leaving office in connection with a $35,000 grand piano paid for by a company that did business with her administration. The piano, emblazoned with the Collins family crest, was presented to her in 1984. Statewide debate raged over another mansion fixture: a tanning bed. But it was a federal probe into her husband's activities that actually derailed her national political career. Bill Collins was convicted on charges that he extorted $1.1 million in contributions from state contractors while his wife was governor. Wallace G. Wilkinson (1987-91) Gov. Wilkinson was investigated by a federal grand jury and the FBI in connection with overseas business deals, resulting in an audit by the Italian Tax Police. He also came under scrutiny after large state contracts went to firms that gave money to his wife's failed gubernatorial campaign. A separate investigation was launched on charges that a company he owned conspired to buy stolen textbooks. Mr. Wilkinson recorded his trials and tribulations in the mansion in his autobiography, You Can't Do That, Governor! He died July 5, but Kentucky courts still are sorting through a $418 million bankruptcy case involving e-Campus, an online textbook company he created in the Internet startup boom. Brereton C. Jones (1991-95) Gov. Jones, owner of Airdrie Stud breeding stable, was investigated by the FBI in connection with a 1990 �Preakness Party.� At least 22 National Guard officers gave more than $36,000 to his campaign and later benefited from promotions and state appointments, investigators alleged. There also was a state arson investigation at his Woodford County horse farm. A barn, home to well-insured thoroughbreds that were infected with equine herpes and unable to breed, burned to the ground. Mr. Jones left the state with its largest budget surplus in history. Paul E. Patton (1995-present) The coal operater and engineer from Pike County has promoted education, significantly raising the state's national rating and helping bring numerous large companies to Kentucky. He is named in a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by Tina Conner, a former mistress who claims he abused his power by sending investigators to her nursing home after she broke off the affair. The FBI is investigating, and the state Attorney General's office and Ethics Commission have opened probes. (Just found this site: borrowing some stuff under fair use/national emergency have at it people post some stuff!!!!)

Remote Name:: 206.28.44.82
Date:: 2003-08-29
Time:: 03:26 PM

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"The Idea of Luck" this woman's testamony link below at least scratches the surface but here is one of many lists of questions to be found on the net http://www.twin-towers.net/questions.htm <(double click it to read) by using a search engine you can have your head spinning in no time triing to un-spin the "strategic influence" flying around in the "perpetual war for perpetual peace"(as per george orwell ) I am still triing to track down a credible report to confirm statements made that the FBI paid for several of the 9/11 hijackers hotel rooms, this charge was supposedly made during this hearings testamony but I cant find it on the .gov transcript, which would not be a suprise of course, but if true, I would might give "real" money to get a copy of the video of that testamony . . . This was probably on c-span II at 3am if you missed it... now burried at: http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing1/9-11Commission_Hearing_2003-03-31.htm#panel_two MS. KLEINBERG:....September 11th. But where was our government, its agencies and institutions prior to and on the morning of September 11th? The theory of luck. With regard to the 9/11 attacks, it has been said that the intelligence agencies have to be right 100 percent of the time and the terrorists only have to get lucky once. This explanation for the devastating attacks of September 11th, simple on its face, is wrong in its value, because the 9/11 terrorists were not just lucky once, they were lucky over and over again. Allow me to illustrate. The SEC. The terrorists' lucky streak began the week before September 11th with the Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC. The SEC, in concert with the United States intelligence agencies, has sophisticated software programs that are used in real time to watch both domestic and overseas markets to seek out trends that may indicate a present or future crime. In the week prior to September 11th both the SEC and U.S. intelligence agencies ignored one major stock-market indicator, one that could have yielded valuable information with regard to the September 11th attacks. On the Chicago Board Options Exchange during the week before September 11th, put options were purchased on American and United Airlines, the two airlines involved in the attacks. The investors who placed these orders were gambling that in the short term, the stock prices of both airlines would plummet. Never before on the Chicago Exchange were such large amounts of United and American Airlines options traded. These investors netted a profit of several million dollars after the September 11th attacks. Interestingly, the names of the investors remain undisclosed and the millions remain unclaimed in the Chicago Exchange account. Why were these aberrant trades not discovered prior to 9/11? Who were the individuals who placed these trades? Have they been investigated? Who was responsible for monitoring these activities? Have those individuals been held responsible for their inaction? The INS. Prior to 9/11, our United States intelligence agencies should have stopped the 19 terrorists from entering this country for intelligence reasons alone. However, their failure to do so in 19 instances does not negate the luck involved for the terrorists when it comes to their visa applications and our Immigration and Naturalization Service, or INS. With regard to the INS, the terrorists got lucky 15 individual times because 15 of the 19 hijackers' visas should have been unquestionably denied. Most of the 19 hijackers were young, unmarried, unemployed males. They were, in short, the classic overstay candidates. A seasoned former Consular Officer stated in National Review Magazine, "Single, idle young adults with no specific destination in the United States rarely get visas absent compelling circumstances." Yet these 19 young, single, unemployed, "classic overstay candidates still received their visas." I am holding in my hand some of the applications of the terrorists who killed my husband. All of these forms are incomplete and incorrect. Some of the terrorists listed their means of support as simply "student" failing to then list the name and address of any school or institution. Others, when asked about their means of support for their stay in the United States wrote "myself" and provided no further documentation. Some of the terrorists listed their destination as simply "hotel" or "California" or "New York". One even listed his destination as "no". Had the INS or the State Department followed the law, at least 15 of the hijackers would have been denied visas and would not have been in the United States on September 11, 2001. Help us to understand how something as simple as reviewing forms for completeness could have been missed at least 15 times. How many more lucky terrorists gained unfettered access into this country? With no one being held accountable, how do we know that this still isn't happening? On the morning of September 11th, the terrorists' luck commenced with airline and airport security. When the 19 hijackers went to purchase their tickets and to receive their boarding passes, nine were singled out and questioned through a screening process. Luckily for those nine terrorists, they passed the screening process and were allowed to continue on with their mission. But the terrorists' luck did not end at the ticket counter, it accompanied them through airport security, as well, because how else would the hijackers get specifically contraband items such as box cutters, pepper spray, or, according to one FAA executive summary, a gun, on those planes? Finally, sadly for us, years of GAO recommendations to secure cockpit doors were ignored making it all too easy for the hijackers to gain access to the flight controls and carry out their suicide missions. The FAA and NORAD. Prior to 9/11, FAA and Department of Defense manuals gave clear, comprehensive instructions on how to handle everything from minor emergencies to full-blown hijackings. These protocols were in place and were practiced regularly for a good reason -- with heavily trafficked airspace, airliners without radio and transponder contact are collisions waiting to happen. These protocols dictate that in the event of an emergency, the FAA is to notify NORAD. Once that notification takes place, it is then the responsibility of NORAD to scramble fighter jets to intercept the errant plane. It is a matter of routine procedure for fighter jets to intercept commercial airliners in order to regain contact with the pilot. In fact, between June 2000 and September 2001, fighter jets were scrambled 67 times. If that weren't enough protection, on September 11th, NEADS, or the Northeast Air Defense System department of NORAD, was several days into a semi-annual exercise known as Vigilant Guardian. This meant that our Northeast Air Defense System was fully staffed. In short, key officers were manning the operation battle center, fighter jets were cocked, loaded, and carrying extra gas on board. Lucky for the terrorists none of that mattered on September 11th. Let me use Flight 11 as an example. American Airlines Flight 11 departed Boston Logan Airport at 7:45 a.m. The last routine communication between ground control and the plane occurred at 8:13 a.m. Between 8:13 and 8:20, Flight 11 became unresponsive to ground control. Additionally, radar indicated that the plane had deviated from its assigned path of flight. Soon thereafter, transponder contact was lost. Two Flight 11 airline attendants had separately called American Airlines reporting a hijacking, the presence of weapons and the inflictions of injuries upon passengers and crew. At this point it would seem abundantly clear that Flight 11 was an emergency. And yet, according to NORAD's official timeline, NORAD was not contacted until 20 minutes later at 8:40 a.m. Tragically, the fighter jets were not deployed until 8:52 a.m., a full 32 minutes after loss of contact with Flight 11. Why was there a delay in the FAA notifying NORAD? Why was there a delay in NORAD's scrambling fighter jets? How is this possible when NEADS was fully staffed with planes at the ready, monitoring our airspace? Flights 175, 77 and 93 all had this same repeat pattern of delays in notification and delays in scrambling fighter jets, delays that are unimaginable considering a plane had, by this time, already hit the World Trade Center. Even more baffling for us is the fact that fighter jets were not scrambled from the closest Air Force bases. For example, for the flight that hit the Pentagon, the jets were scrambled from Langley Air Force, in Hampton, Virginia rather than Andrews Air Force Base right outside D.C. As a result, Washington skies remained wholly unprotected on the morning of September 11th. At 9:41 a.m., one hour and 21 minutes after the first plane was hijack confirmed by NORAD, Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. The fighter jets were still miles away. Why? So the hijackers' luck had continued. On September 11th both the FAA and NORAD deviated from standard emergency operating procedures. Who were the people that delayed the notification? Have they been questioned? In addition, the interceptor planes or fighter jets did not fly at their maximum speed. Had the belatedly scrambled fighter jets flown at their maximum speed of engagement, they would have reached New York City and the Pentagon within moments of their deployment, intercepted the hijacked airliners before they could have hit their targets, and undoubtedly saved lives. The leadership. The acting Joint Chief of Staff on September 11th was General Richard B. Myers. On the morning of September 11th, he was having a routine meeting. The acting Joint Chief of Staff stated that he saw a TV report about a plane hitting the World Trade Center but thought it was a small plane or something like that. So, he went ahead with his meeting. "Meanwhile, the second World Trade Center was hit by another jet. Nobody informed us of that," Myers said. By the time he came out of this meeting, the Pentagon had been hit. Whose responsibility was it to relay this emergency to the Joint Chief of Staff? Have they been held accountable for this error? Surely this represents a breakdown in protocol. The Secretary of Defense was at his desk doing paperwork when Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. As reported, Secretary Rumsfeld felt the building shake, went outside, saw the damage and started helping the injured onto stretchers. After aiding the victims, the Secretary then went to the War Room. How is it possible that the National Military Command Center, located in the Pentagon and in contact with law enforcement and air-traffic controllers from 8:46 a.m., did not communicate to the Secretary of Defense, also at the Pentagon, about the other hijacked planes, especially the one headed to Washington? How is it that the Secretary of Defense could have remained at his desk until the crash? Whose responsibility is it to relay emergency situations to him? At 6:15 a.m. on the morning of September 11th, my husband Alan left for work. He drove in to New York City and was at his desk and working at his NASDAQ security-trading position with Cantor Fitzgerald, in Tower 1 of the World Trade Center, by 7:30 a.m. In contrast, on that morning President Bush was scheduled to read to elementary-school children. Before the President walked into the classroom, NORAD had sufficient information that the plane that hit the World Trade Center was hijacked. At that time they also had knowledge that two other commercial airliners in the air were also hijacked. It would seem that a national emergency was in progress, yet the President was allowed to enter a classroom full of young children and listen to students read. Why didn't the Secret Service inform him of this national emergency? When is the President supposed to be notified of everything the agencies know? Why was the President permitted by the Secret Service to remain in the Sarasota elementary school? Was this Secret Service protocol? In the case of a national emergency, seconds of indecision could cost thousands of lives. And it is precisely for that reason that our government has a whole network of adjuncts and advisors to ensure that these top officials are among the first to be informed and not the last. Where were these individuals who did not properly inform these top officials? Where was the breakdown in communication? Was it luck? Is it luck that aberrant stock trades were not monitored? Is it luck when 15 visas are awarded based on incomplete forms? Is it luck when airline security screeners allow hijackers to board planes with box cutters and pepper spray? Is it luck when emergency FAA and NORAD protocols are not followed? Is it luck when a national emergency is not reported to top government officials on a timely basis? To me luck is something that happens once. When you have this repeated pattern of broken protocols, broken laws, broken communication, one cannot still call it luck. If at some point we don't look to hold the individuals accountable for not doing their jobs properly, then how can we ever expect for terrorists to not get lucky again? And that is why I'm here with all of you today, because we must find the answers as to what happened that day so as to ensure that another September 11th can never happen again. Commissioners, I implore you to answer our questions. You are the generals in the terrorism fight on our shores. In answering our questions, you have the ability to make this nation a safer place and, in turn, minimize the damage if there is another terrorist attack. And if there is another attack, the next time our systems will be in place and working and luck will not be an issue. Thank you. CHAIRMAN KEAN: Is Allison Vadhan here yet? She's on the way and she has a statement and we will put her on after the break. KLEINBERG: My name is Mindy Kleinberg. My husband Alan, 39 years old, was killed in the World Trade Center on September 11th, 2001. As I testify here today about the 9/11 attacks, I will begin by saying that my thoughts are very much with the men and women who are involved in armed conflict overseas and their families who wait patiently for them to return. This war is being fought on two fronts, overseas as well as here on our shores. This means that we are all soldiers in this fight against terrorism. As the threat of terrorism mounts here in the United States, the need to address the failures of September 11th is more important than ever. It is an essential part of lessons learned. As such, this commission has an extremely important task before it. I'm here today to ask you, the Commissioners, to help us understand how this could have happened. Help us understand where the breakdown was in our nation's defense capabilities. Where we were on the morning of September 11th. On the morning of September 11th my three-year-old son, Sam, and I walked Jacob, 10, and Lauren, seven, to the bus stop at about 8:40 a.m. It was the fourth day of a new school year and you could still feel everyone's excitement. It was such a beautiful day that Sam and I literally skipped home, oblivious to what was happening in New York. At around 8:55 I was confirming play-date plans for Sam when a friend said, "I can't believe what I'm watching on TV, a plane has just hit the World Trade Center." For some reason it didn't register with me until a few minutes later, I asked her calmly, "What building did you say? Oh, that's Alan's building, I have to call you back." There was no answer when I tried to reach him at the office. By now my house started filling with people -- his mother, my parents, our sisters and friends. The seriousness of the situation was beginning to register. We spent the rest of the day calling hospitals and the Red Cross and anyplace else we could think of to see if we could find him. I will never forget thinking all day long, "How am I going to tell Jacob and Lauren that their father was missing?" They came home to a house filled with people but no Daddy. How were they going to be able to wait calmly for his return? What if he was really hurt? This was their hero, their king, their best friend, their father. The thoughts of that day replay over and over in our heads, always wishing for a different outcome. We are trying to learn to live with the pain. We will never forget where we were or how we felt on September 11th. But where was our government, its agencies and institutions prior to and on the morning of September 11th? The theory of luck. With regard to the 9/11 attacks, it has been said that the intelligence agencies have to be right 100 percent of the time and the terrorists only have to get lucky once. This explanation for the devastating attacks of September 11th, simple on its face, is wrong in its value, because the 9/11 terrorists were not just lucky once, they were lucky over and over again. Allow me to illustrate. The SEC. The terrorists' lucky streak began the week before September 11th with the Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC. The SEC, in concert with the United States intelligence agencies, has sophisticated software programs that are used in real time to watch both domestic and overseas markets to seek out trends that may indicate a present or future crime. In the week prior to September 11th both the SEC and U.S. intelligence agencies ignored one major stock-market indicator, one that could have yielded valuable information with regard to the September 11th attacks. On the Chicago Board Options Exchange during the week before September 11th, put options were purchased on American and United Airlines, the two airlines involved in the attacks. The investors who placed these orders were gambling that in the short term, the stock prices of both airlines would plummet. Never before on the Chicago Exchange were such large amounts of United and American Airlines options traded. These investors netted a profit of several million dollars after the September 11th attacks. Interestingly, the names of the investors remain undisclosed and the millions remain unclaimed in the Chicago Exchange account. Why were these aberrant trades not discovered prior to 9/11? Who were the individuals who placed these trades? Have they been investigated? Who was responsible for monitoring these activities? Have those individuals been held responsible for their inaction? The INS. Prior to 9/11, our United States intelligence agencies should have stopped the 19 terrorists from entering this country for intelligence reasons alone. However, their failure to do so in 19 instances does not negate the luck involved for the terrorists when it comes to their visa applications and our Immigration and Naturalization Service, or INS. With regard to the INS, the terrorists got lucky 15 individual times because 15 of the 19 hijackers' visas should have been unquestionably denied. Most of the 19 hijackers were young, unmarried, unemployed males. They were, in short, the classic overstay candidates. A seasoned former Consular Officer stated in National Review Magazine, "Single, idle young adults with no specific destination in the United States rarely get visas absent compelling circumstances." Yet these 19 young, single, unemployed, "classic overstay candidates still received their visas." I am holding in my hand some of the applications of the terrorists who killed my husband. All of these forms are incomplete and incorrect. Some of the terrorists listed their means of support as simply "student" failing to then list the name and address of any school or institution. Others, when asked about their means of support for their stay in the United States wrote "myself" and provided no further documentation. Some of the terrorists listed their destination as simply "hotel" or "California" or "New York". One even listed his destination as "no". Had the INS or the State Department followed the law, at least 15 of the hijackers would have been denied visas and would not have been in the United States on September 11, 2001. Help us to understand how something as simple as reviewing forms for completeness could have been missed at least 15 times. How many more lucky terrorists gained unfettered access into this country? With no one being held accountable, how do we know that this still isn't happening? On the morning of September 11th, the terrorists' luck commenced with airline and airport security. When the 19 hijackers went to purchase their tickets and to receive their boarding passes, nine were singled out and questioned through a screening process. Luckily for those nine terrorists, they passed the screening process and were allowed to continue on with their mission. But the terrorists' luck did not end at the ticket counter, it accompanied them through airport security, as well, because how else would the hijackers get specifically contraband items such as box cutters, pepper spray, or, according to one FAA executive summary, a gun, on those planes? Finally, sadly for us, years of GAO recommendations to secure cockpit doors were ignored making it all too easy for the hijackers to gain access to the flight controls and carry out their suicide missions. The FAA and NORAD. Prior to 9/11, FAA and Department of Defense manuals gave clear, comprehensive instructions on how to handle everything from minor emergencies to full-blown hijackings. These protocols were in place and were practiced regularly for a good reason -- with heavily trafficked airspace, airliners without radio and transponder contact are collisions waiting to happen. These protocols dictate that in the event of an emergency, the FAA is to notify NORAD. Once that notification takes place, it is then the responsibility of NORAD to scramble fighter jets to intercept the errant plane. It is a matter of routine procedure for fighter jets to intercept commercial airliners in order to regain contact with the pilot. In fact, between June 2000 and September 2001, fighter jets were scrambled 67 times. If that weren't enough protection, on September 11th, NEADS, or the Northeast Air Defense System department of NORAD, was several days into a semi-annual exercise known as Vigilant Guardian. This meant that our Northeast Air Defense System was fully staffed. In short, key officers were manning the operation battle center, fighter jets were cocked, loaded, and carrying extra gas on board. Lucky for the terrorists none of that mattered on September 11th. Let me use Flight 11 as an example. American Airlines Flight 11 departed Boston Logan Airport at 7:45 a.m. The last routine communication between ground control and the plane occurred at 8:13 a.m. Between 8:13 and 8:20, Flight 11 became unresponsive to ground control. Additionally, radar indicated that the plane had deviated from its assigned path of flight. Soon thereafter, transponder contact was lost. Two Flight 11 airline attendants had separately called American Airlines reporting a hijacking, the presence of weapons and the inflictions of injuries upon passengers and crew. At this point it would seem abundantly clear that Flight 11 was an emergency. And yet, according to NORAD's official timeline, NORAD was not contacted until 20 minutes later at 8:40 a.m. Tragically, the fighter jets were not deployed until 8:52 a.m., a full 32 minutes after loss of contact with Flight 11. Why was there a delay in the FAA notifying NORAD? Why was there a delay in NORAD's scrambling fighter jets? How is this possible when NEADS was fully staffed with planes at the ready, monitoring our airspace? Flights 175, 77 and 93 all had this same repeat pattern of delays in notification and delays in scrambling fighter jets, delays that are unimaginable considering a plane had, by this time, already hit the World Trade Center. Even more baffling for us is the fact that fighter jets were not scrambled from the closest Air Force bases. For example, for the flight that hit the Pentagon, the jets were scrambled from Langley Air Force, in Hampton, Virginia rather than Andrews Air Force Base right outside D.C. As a result, Washington skies remained wholly unprotected on the morning of September 11th. At 9:41 a.m., one hour and 21 minutes after the first plane was hijack confirmed by NORAD, Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. The fighter jets were still miles away. Why? So the hijackers' luck had continued. On September 11th both the FAA and NORAD deviated from standard emergency operating procedures. Who were the people that delayed the notification? Have they been questioned? In addition, the interceptor planes or fighter jets did not fly at their maximum speed. Had the belatedly scrambled fighter jets flown at their maximum speed of engagement, they would have reached New York City and the Pentagon within moments of their deployment, intercepted the hijacked airliners before they could have hit their targets, and undoubtedly saved lives. The leadership. The acting Joint Chief of Staff on September 11th was General Richard B. Myers. On the morning of September 11th, he was having a routine meeting. The acting Joint Chief of Staff stated that he saw a TV report about a plane hitting the World Trade Center but thought it was a small plane or something like that. So, he went ahead with his meeting. "Meanwhile, the second World Trade Center was hit by another jet. Nobody informed us of that," Myers said. By the time he came out of this meeting, the Pentagon had been hit. Whose responsibility was it to relay this emergency to the Joint Chief of Staff? Have they been held accountable for this error? Surely this represents a breakdown in protocol. The Secretary of Defense was at his desk doing paperwork when Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. As reported, Secretary Rumsfeld felt the building shake, went outside, saw the damage and started helping the injured onto stretchers. After aiding the victims, the Secretary then went to the War Room. How is it possible that the National Military Command Center, located in the Pentagon and in contact with law enforcement and air-traffic controllers from 8:46 a.m., did not communicate to the Secretary of Defense, also at the Pentagon, about the other hijacked planes, especially the one headed to Washington? How is it that the Secretary of Defense could have remained at his desk until the crash? Whose responsibility is it to relay emergency situations to him? At 6:15 a.m. on the morning of September 11th, my husband Alan left for work. He drove in to New York City and was at his desk and working at his NASDAQ security-trading position with Cantor Fitzgerald, in Tower 1 of the World Trade Center, by 7:30 a.m. In contrast, on that morning President Bush was scheduled to read to elementary-school children. Before the President walked into the classroom, NORAD had sufficient information that the plane that hit the World Trade Center was hijacked. At that time they also had knowledge that two other commercial airliners in the air were also hijacked. It would seem that a national emergency was in progress, yet the President was allowed to enter a classroom full of young children and listen to students read. Why didn't the Secret Service inform him of this national emergency? When is the President supposed to be notified of everything the agencies know? Why was the President permitted by the Secret Service to remain in the Sarasota elementary school? Was this Secret Service protocol? In the case of a national emergency, seconds of indecision could cost thousands of lives. And it is precisely for that reason that our government has a whole network of adjuncts and advisors to ensure that these top officials are among the first to be informed and not the last. Where were these individuals who did not properly inform these top officials? Where was the breakdown in communication? Was it luck? Is it luck that aberrant stock trades were not monitored? Is it luck when 15 visas are awarded based on incomplete forms? Is it luck when airline security screeners allow hijackers to board planes with box cutters and pepper spray? Is it luck when emergency FAA and NORAD protocols are not followed? Is it luck when a national emergency is not reported to top government officials on a timely basis? To me luck is something that happens once. When you have this repeated pattern of broken protocols, broken laws, broken communication, one cannot still call it luck. If at some point we don't look to hold the individuals accountable for not doing their jobs properly, then how can we ever expect for terrorists to not get lucky again? And that is why I'm here with all of you today, because we must find the answers as to what happened that day so as to ensure that another September 11th can never happen again. Commissioners, I implore you to answer our questions. You are the generals in the terrorism fight on our shores. In answering our questions, you have the ability to make this nation a safer place and, in turn, minimize the damage if there is another terrorist attack. And if there is another attack, the next time our systems will be in place and working and luck will not be an issue. Thank you. CHAIRMAN KEAN: Is Allison Vadhan here yet? She's on the way and she has a statement and we will put her on after the break. ((was at:)) http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/witness_kleinberg.htm http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0304/S00045.htm

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here's something to do: http://www.willowtown.com/freekentucky/ Pay Attention if you want a future!!!!!

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Morehead is the heart of Rowan County and we love it!! I go to Morehead State University and I love the Eagles! Thank you Morehead News for providing this wonderful community web site!!!!

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the story up above about zoloft really says it all to those 1st amendment advocates that say people are not harmed by profane dumbass behavior depicted on flemTV and other channels that are marketed to younger more "suggestable" souls. The imfamous "Fire; Fire" beavis & butthead episode comes to mind!!! Get channel notch filters for your boobtube cable service drop if you don't want yur elecronic babysitter PROGRAMMING and glamourising your child to amoral higher risk idiotic stunts, so there!? read the story; j*ck*ss (children not likely to tell the difference due to suggestability.)

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I know one thing that is great about this town not alot of folks know: It is named for one Govenor Morehead that after being kidnapped by german? northern mercenaries and held without trial for 3years; when finnally released or escaped? he left south into mexico with a group of confederates saying he would never set foot in such a tyranical country again, dont think he did either; I read that claim in one of those books mentioned up above by Col. M. they'd better rename Breckenridge Hall also, if'n they want to be politically correct up at dat ivy covered north korea; he was a big "southerner"; never seen the klan meeting in there, but they dont invite me to their meetings caus' I haint racist, In fact, Im giving up on white women if thisun' I got dont behave, ha?

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to the curious "C"itizen ABOVE^ Can we in this community defend our property from late night trespassors and those we suspect might be repeat vandals by using a bbgun to order them to lie on the ground while the police are called? If you said yea shure it's america; then you dont know the story of one guy, a former Morehead business owner, who was threated, his family threatened, and ran out of this "wonderful community" because he had caught some overcharges to the tune of $80,000 or more to his construction project that was vandalised after he started pressing charges against the parties involved (and none of that evermade the paper but his triing to catch vandals did) and he was taken to the grandjury twice until he was charged with kidnapping then had to make a deal forced to take anger management classes and sold his business left town even though he married into a local family? If you know who I refer to, yea he is somewhat of a hothead maybe; racist? I aint defending his charactor or lack thereof; but if it happed to him Who is next? I get pretty hot in situations like that too that is a healthy response to the moneychangers also; Its a wonderful town haint it? if you're selectivley ignorant of certain things, sure it's as safe as any other place in this corrupted and co-opted UN freetrade zone... just dont walk in front of the "Lodge"& ambulence sevice around 6am they still aint figured who ran that guy down a couple of years back, he was hit so hard it left his shoes And socks in the street? Seems like Sadaam used tactics like that; hmmmm... to be continued

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